I worked once for a traditional Direct Mailing company and this company was selling pillows in the TV. When somebody bought something they preserved his/her data asking for their permission to do so. People usually agreed.
Later on, other big companies call this one and ask them: Tell me how many women between 30 and 45 with children and from Barcelona you have. I sell X at Y price to you. Then, the buyer used to send publicity oriented to this kind of customer, and in most of the cases they like it. But in others, they called the sender asking for a data deletion and the sender called my company, who deleted it. This is because there are strong laws in Spain to protect the rights of individuals. In the Internet this won't happen unless all countries agree first to prosecute worse crimes: against the Humanity (Milosevic, Pinochet and others). If this priority can be obtained, then we will be able to have laws that rule the Internet. But by now, countries don't agree even in more profitable matters, like the GANTT (General Agreement on Tarifs and Trade), so I don't think they will move a finger for something is not clearly profitable for all countries. Another one: Kioto???? But, let's go back to what the buyer did: They targeted the customer. Certainly, I would get very angry if I receive a lot of propaganda about Tampons, when being a man, I don't really care about their wonderful properties. Obviously, the same happens to the person spammed. The mail lasts and lasts and at the end, what??? Pyramids, Get rich in 25 seconds, Buy this hose (I don't have a garden!!!!!!!!!). Yes, that's it. I think Direct Emailing is going to be essential for many companies, and some of them won't be able to settle a portal and make their potential customers to opt-in. Dont' worry, this use will be only B2B, and these companies have already a mailbox for that purpose (info@, contact@, sales@ ) so targeting is easy and you won't be affected. So this companies will have to send their publicity to others in this sector, and never to individuals. What happens when a company has the funky idea of using the Internet as a TV ( I mean, "EVERYBODY are going to know that my shoes are the best!"). Well, this is SPAM. This is to use a private channel (my personal mailbox) for a public campaign. This usually happen. Somebody doesn't know the rules of Marketing and he's going to play with his money and your patience. When you have thousands of beginners, you're in trouble. Solutions: change your email address, don't make the new one public, use an anti-spam program. Take into account, your email address must be posted somewhere and these shameless people don't care about you or what you need and they send you their shit. They throw stones, and no one business can prosper with that lack of good manners. There's a saying: "The success of a salesperson is directly connected to how he/her is seen by the buyer" Finishing, I think SPAMMING is not going to grew up. I think this because there is going to be always a population of beginners who enter the market and do this practises and at the end don't get any money and disappear. Their place will be soonly occupied by another beginner. Cheers from Spain! OLE!!! ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Seth Breidbart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Enviado: mi�rcoles, 17 de abril de 2002 13:56 Asunto: Re: [spamcon-general] Here's a funky idea >> Can you suggest a similiar method for e-mail? Thus far, no >> spammer has appeared to be willing to change their methodology >> to make it easier for us to filter their messages. > > Filtering spam doesn't even begin to address the real problem with > spam. Unless spam is prevented from even arriving at the > destination, nothing has been accomplished. There are several main costs to the recipient of spam. First is the physical cost (bandwidth, disk space, cpu time, etc.) Filtering doesn't help much with that. Second is the time of the recipient. Filtering helps a lot with that. Third is the collateral damage (loss of wanted email). Filtering can increase (false positives) or decrease (by causing people not to give up on email entirely) that. Seth _______________________________________________ spamcon-general mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.spamcon.org/mailman/listinfo/spamcon-general#subscribers Subscribe, unsubscribe, etc: Use the URL above or send "help" in body of message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact administrator: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ spamcon-general mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.spamcon.org/mailman/listinfo/spamcon-general#subscribers Subscribe, unsubscribe, etc: Use the URL above or send "help" in body of message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact administrator: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
