Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:39:46 +0100
To: Net Abuse Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: postmaster_at_webseek_dot_de
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Sub_Space_Mailer SMTP server: errors from 
ip37.san-diego14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net[38.29.48.37]] #nab-50008525

To whom it may concern @psi.net,
i find it surprising (to say the least) that in your mail below you recommend to use 
an UCE reporting site like spamcop.net and then
mail sent to you via spamcop.net bounces!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
when i use spamcop.net for UCE reporting, i have got used to see error messages like  
the following:
Tracking message source:38.37.111.196:
[show] "nslookup 38.37.111.196" (getting name) 38.37.111.196 = 
ip196.miami41.fl.pub-ip.psi.net
[show] "nslookup ip196.miami41.fl.pub-ip.psi.net" (checking ip) ip = 38.37.111.196
abuse.net ip196.miami41.fl.pub-ip.psi.net = [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
paranoid reverse DNS passes - using [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bounces (6 sent : 6 bounces)
Using abuse#[EMAIL PROTECTED] for statistical tracking.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bounces (7 sent : 7 bounces)
Using abuse#[EMAIL PROTECTED] for statistical tracking.

this looks to me like you deliberately block mails sent to your abuse@ adresses via 
spamcop.net!

this makes your well formulated mail below seem somewhat fishy.

regards




In the previous episode (20.04.2001), Net Abuse Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>From: Net Abuse Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Fwd: Sub_Space_Mailer SMTP server: errors from
>ip37.san-diego14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net[38.29.48.37]] #nab-50008525

>
>Hello,
>
>This is to notify you that PSINet has received your complaint. We do view
>the 
>conduct that generated your complaint as prohibited and we are taking the
>necessary 
>steps to make certain that account or network understands the prohibition
>and acts 
>accordingly if the traffic originated from PSINet's network.
>
>If the report generated is in regards to traffic off of our network,
>PSINet would NOT 
>have any authority over this matter. If you are unsure of the origination
>of the traffic 
>you may wish to use http://www.arin.net/whois/arinwhois.html or use a UCE
>reporting site 
>like http://www.spamcop.net to assist you. 
>
>When you report an abuse incident in regards to PSINet�s network ONLY,
>supporting 
>information (mail server headers, or supporting server logs, and time
>zone) is required. 
>You can use our on-line reporting site at
>http://www.support.psinet.com/PSIabusetik/ or 
>send a complaint to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Thank you.
>
>Net-Abuse Team
>PSINet Inc.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

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