Sam,

Having given up on SPF, I am about to try a couple of things related to what
you are suggesting:

1. Change filter-level to require-auth.  However, I don't know what that
will do to legitimate incoming mail from other domains.  
2. Change filter-level to require-auth just for senders with my domain
(using a _sender_ config-dir).
3. Remove my domain from sender-whitelists if necessary
4. Remove the IP of my mail server from IP-whitelist if necessary

Is this more or less what you had in mind?  I'll let you know how it goes.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sam Clippinger
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 16:38
To: spamdyke users
Subject: Re: [spamdyke-users] Spammers spoofing internal FROM addresses

No, I was thinking that you could configure spamdyke to require 
authentication whenever a message is delivered _from_ an address at one 
of your domains. That should prevent remote clients from spoofing your 
addresses, right? Just after I sent that last message, I decided it was 
a stupid idea and it obviously wouldn't work but now I can't remember 
why I thought that. So I'm either completely wrong or I'm losing my 
mind, please let me know which one so I can plan accordingly. :)

-- Sam Clippinger

Joe Canner wrote:
> Sam,
>
> Thanks for your response.  I'm trying SPF at the moment to see if that
will
> work.
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you mean about requiring authentication.  I
> have smtp-auth-level set to "ondemand-encrypted".  Do I need to set it to
> something else?  Or do you mean I need to take my domain out of
> rcpthosts/tcp.smtp so that it treats it as external and required
> authentication for relaying?  Or something else?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sam Clippinger
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 18:58
> To: spamdyke users
> Subject: Re: [spamdyke-users] Spammers spoofing internal FROM addresses
>
> I'm still not excited about this idea because I believe it will cause 
> more problems than it will solve. Personally, I use a lot of automated 
> tools that send me reports/etc using my address and this kind of filter 
> would block all of those. Determining whether an rDNS/IP is authorized 
> to send email is tricky (SPF was designed for this purpose). I'm open to 
> debate, however.
>
> In the short term, could you stop this kind of spam by configuring 
> spamdyke to require authentication for all of your local domains?
>
> -- Sam Clippinger
>
> Joe Canner wrote:
>   
>> Dear Spamdyke community,
>>
>> A month or two ago there was a thread about spam where the FROM 
>> address is the same as the TO address (both referring to the recipient 
>> of the spam). At the time, this issue was dismissed without much 
>> discussion. This has, within the last month, become a very serious 
>> problem for us. Because the FROM address is local, it bypasses 
>> graylisting, which up until now had been a very effective method of 
>> protection.
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a solution to this? Please don't suggest 
>> SpamAssassin or blacklists, I am not interested in those right now 
>> (too many false positives for one thing, too many unsophisticated 
>> users for another).
>>
>> Surely there must be a way in Spamdyke to block mail with a FROM 
>> address that is different from the RDNS address. Or, alternatively, to 
>> block mail where the TO and FROM addresses are the same and the RDNS 
>> address is not local.
>>
>> Thank you all for your assistance.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Joe Canner
>>
>> Casablanca, MOROCCO
>>
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