No, you misunderstood. I'm not asking about removing RC anytime later. I 
want to disable SA for authenticated users only.
The problem is that both of you (spamdyke/spamassassin) have you own 
logic that works well alone, but do not work well together.
The solution could be some way of communication between the two that can 
override the default behaviours. This is why I thought about adding 
another env var (the main way of communication) that could relay the 
information.

So:

Spamdyke sets RC for all mail it thinks by its rules, that must be 
handled and overrides qmail.
qmail-scanner only filters mail that's not local and RC is not set.
This way I'm forced to override qmail-scanner by setting QS_SPAMASSASSIN 
from my smtp.conf and by this scanning authenticated mail as well.

A possible solution is to add a logic to spamdyke which is able to set a 
new env var and also add a logic to qmail-scanner takes it into 
consideration when scanning mail. This needs only minor changes in both 
software and enables them to peacefully coexist.

The logic I was thinking of:

- spamdyke acts as normal with average config
- Add and env var SCAN_SPAM which can be set to 'on' or 'off'
- qmail-scanner acts as normal without the env var (or wrongly set)
- qmail-scanner overrides spam scanning rules if the env var tells it 
explicitly to set it on/off

- Add a rule to spamdyke's config: external-spam-scan-on-auth which 
takes on or off as arguments and sets the env var to that.

The same could be used for other spam scan disable/enable scenarios not 
just authentication and as a plain env var, other downstream scanning 
modules can utilize it, not just qmail-scanner.

What to you think Sam?

Regards
Bgs


On 11/25/2010 06:10 PM, Sam Clippinger wrote:
> I'm not sure this can be resolved.  Environment variables can't be
> altered once the qmail-smtpd process has been started:
>       http://www.spamdyke.org/documentation/FAQ.html#SUGGESTION7
>
> spamdyke always sets the RELAYCLIENT variable because it needs to
> override qmail's filters when a client meets spamdyke's criteria for
> relaying.  Specifically, if a client authenticates or matches a
> whitelist, spamdyke needs to prevent qmail from blocking the message
> later.  I suppose I could change spamdyke to not set the RELAYCLIENT
> variable if authentication is turned off and no whitelists are
> enabled... but the method to trigger/stop the variable would be so
> complex I think it would cause more confusion than it's worth.
>
> What does the rest of your spamdyke configuration look like?  Could you
> use it with no whitelists, no configuration directories and "smtp-auth"
> set to "none" or "observe"?
>
> -- Sam Clippinger
>
> On 11/23/10 3:01 PM, Bgs wrote:
>> Trying again, it didn't show up on the list...
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject:     RELAYCLIENT setting when spamdyke is authenticating
>> Date:        Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:52:14 +0100
>> From:        Bgs<[email protected]>
>> To:  spamdyke users<[email protected]>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   Hi,
>>
>> I might be the one misinterpreting the docs, but something is strange
>> for me.
>>
>> The setup:
>>
>> spamdyke with auth/access file + qmail-scanner with spamassassin
>>
>> In my access file I have localhost with RELAYCLIENT and no
>> qmail-scanner, all other without RELAYCLIENT and qmail-scanner.
>>
>> I have relay-level set to 'normal' which according to the docs, does
>> the following:
>>
>> |normal|: Prevent relaying unless the sender authenticates, the access
>> file allows relaying or an environment variable allows relaying.
>> Requires |local-domains-entry| or |local-domains-file| and |access-file|.
>>
>>
>> So I was expecting the following:
>>
>>   - Normal mail arrives for relay ->  denied (does this)
>>   - Normal mail arrives for domain in rcpthost ->  do NOT set
>> relayclient, pass to q-s and further to qmail-smtpd which will handle
>> it (it doesn't do this)
>>   - Authenticated user sends mail ->  spamdyke sets RELAYCLIENT, q-s
>> skips checks, qmail-smtpd processes mail
>>
>> The second buffles me:
>>
>>   - access file does not set RELAYCLIENT
>>   - there is no environment variable passed to spamdyke
>>   - the user does not authenticate
>>
>> Apparently spamdyke also sets RELAYCLIENT when the domain is in
>> rcpthosts. This means that spamdyke disables spam filtering. If I
>> override qmail-scanner (with explicit QS_SPAMASSASSIN environment
>> variable) to check all mail, authenticated users get filtered as well
>> which leads to loads of complaints.
>>
>> Am I getting something wrong or is this a bug?
>>
>> Regards
>> Bgs
>>
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