On 07/30/2012 09:58 AM, Sam Clippinger wrote:
> Here's yet another chance for me to say that I *still* don't understand the 
> need for a whole separate port
> for authenticated connections.  On my servers, I configure ports 25 and 587 
> exactly the same and mail clients
> can use whichever one makes them the happiest.
> If they authenticate they can send mail, if they don't they'll be subject to 
> the spam filter, simple as that.

The only reason I know of why it's really *needed* is to comply with 
RFC6409 Sec 4.3 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6409#section-4.3), which 
says that an MSA MUST require authentication. I take it this means for 
submissions for intra-domain messages as well. Does spamdyke's 
filter-level=require-auth conform to this (submissions to local domains 
as well)?

While not necessarily *required*, I think there are good reasons for 
having these separate, as they're different logical roles and thus have 
different processing requirements, although they use the same protocol. 
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_submission_agent for some benefits.

We all have our pet peeves. I guess this is one of yours. ;)

> Anyway, you can certainly use spamdyke on port 587 the way you describe.
> Just set it up to use a different configuration file than the one on port 25 
> --
> the second configuration file would not activate all the filters and would 
> also include
> the option "filter-level=require-auth".

I missed that one. I wouldn't expect this option here. It makes sense 
though once I think about it. Thanks.

> I see your point and you're right.

> I guess I had it the way it was because it's simpler for me to do  all my 
> server configuration through spamdyke
> and I didn't see the harm in allowing the whitelist to govern relaying.
> I'll get that changed.

Thanks. No hurry, but I'd like to see it in the next release.

Of course you'll still be able to do all your server configuration 
through spamdyke. That's my goal as well. :)


-- 
-Eric 'shubes'



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