Hi Matt,

I tried using msconvert from pwiz1.5.2 in the following manner:

msconvert D:\InetpubData\HUO00159S00168GL05B06.raw  --mzXML -v --
filter "peakPicking false [1,2]" -o D:\InetpubData

But I got this error:

format: mzXML (Precision_64 [ 1000514:Precision_64
1000515:Precision_32 ], ByteOrder_LittleEndian, Compression_None)
indexed="true"
outputPath: D:\InetpubData
extension: .mzXML
contactFilename:

filters:
  peakPicking false [1,2]

filenames:
  D:/InetpubData/HUO00159S00168GL05B06.raw

processing file: D:/InetpubData/HUO00159S00168GL05B06.raw
[msconvert] Caught unknown exception.


which doesn't really say much..........have you any idea what might be
the problem here?


Bernt


On Jul 17, 4:21 am, Matthew Chambers <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> You'll want to use a newer msconvert. The one you can download 
> fromhttp://downloads.sourceforge.net/proteowizard/pwiz-1.5.2-tools-window...
> should do the trick. The command would be:
> msconvert myfile.raw --filter "peakPicking true [2,2]"
> The true/false field ("prefer vendor peak picking") is irrelevant in
> this case because Waters doesn't provide vendor peak picking, and the
> integer range is in the ms level domain, not the function domain.
> Msconvert, like MassWolf, will assign a ms level to each function based
> on its reported type (i.e. MS, MS/MS, MRM, etc.).
>
> -Matt
>
> Chris Hughes wrote:
> > Natalie,
>
> > I am trying the msconvert way as well, then I can compare the two. Am
> > I correct in thinking, that in msconvert, using the command
>
> > msconvert myfile.raw --filter "nativeCentroid [2,5]"
>
> > this will only centroid my MS/MS data if I have 5 functions (5 scans),
> > survey and 4 ms/ms? I assume thats what the ms level means.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Chris
>
> > On Jul 16, 1:13 pm, Natalie Tasman <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Hi Chris,
>
> >> The centroid option for mzXML output through the Petunia interface should
> >> have been marked as "experimental option".  I don't recommend it.  Instead,
> >> why not give Matt's suggestions a try and let us know how it goes.
>
> >> Natalie
>
> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Chris Hughes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> I see that the mzML converter in the TPP offers the centroid option in
> >>> the Petunia interface. I assume this also uses Masswolf for
> >>> centroiding? At this point the masswolf centroid is my only real
> >>> option, except for converting the files to pkl, at which point I am
> >>> not sure if I can run them through the TPP, correct me if I am wrong
> >>> here.
>
> >>> Chris
>
> >>> On Jul 16, 10:52 am, Matthew Chambers
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> The pwiz non-vendor centroiding currently available to msconvert is a
> >>>> very crude local maximum algorithm. But I have virtually no doubt that
> >>>> even using that crude algorithm would give better results with any
> >>>> centroid-dependent search engine than using the raw profile data.
> >>>> Whether it performs better than the masswolf centroiding... I have done
> >>>> no comparisons so I can't say. Pwiz also has Savitzky-Golay smoothing
> >>>> which is good to apply to spiky profile data before applying
> >>>> local-maximum peak picking, but it's not accessible from msconvert yet.
> >>>> It is accessible from SeeMS, which allows to adjust the SG window size
> >>>> and polynomial order and also the peak picker window size and
> >>>> immediately see the result.
>
> >>>> -Matt
>
> >>>> Natalie Tasman wrote:
>
> >>>>> Hi Chris,
>
> >>>>> Just a reminder that the masswolf centroid mode is experimental, as
> >>>>> noted in the "usage" statement.
>
> >>>>> Matt, how is PWIZ centroiding?  Can msconvert be used to apply this
> >>>>> signal processing and output a processed mzXML file?
>
> >>>>> -Natalie
>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Chris Hughes <[email protected]
> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>     Thanks Matt.
>
> >>>>>     That being said, I have a batch of profile data now that I will
>
> >>> likely
>
> >>>>>     use the masswolf centroid option to deal with so I can search it in
> >>>>>     XTandem. Is there any way to batch process using Masswolf with the
> >>>>>     centroiding option? I notice its not part of the TPP.
>
> >>>>>     Chris
>
> >>>>>     On Jul 15, 2:46 pm, Matthew Chambers
> >>>>>     <[email protected]
> >>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >>>>>     wrote:
> >>>>>     > Hi Chris,,
>
> >>>>>     > AFAIK, X! Tandem isn't designed to run on profile mode data. If
> >>>>>     you are
> >>>>>     > using the default "total peaks" setting then it will take only
> >>>>>     the 50
> >>>>>     > most intense samples (not peaks, because it assumes every data
> >>>>>     point is
> >>>>>     > a peak). 50 samples are easily consumed by just a few peaks. You
>
> >>> can
>
> >>>>>     > increase the total peaks setting, but I expect that would kill
> >>>>>     the score
> >>>>>     > discrimination because it's designed to look at peaks instead of
> >>>>>     > samples. You should continue to acquire centroided MS/MS data or
>
> >>> at
>
> >>>>>     > least have some way to centroid it post-acquisition before
> >>>>>     sending it to
> >>>>>     > X! Tandem.
>
> >>>>>     > -Matt
>
> >>>>>     > chr12is wrote:
> >>>>>     > > Greetings,
>
> >>>>>     > > I am encountering an error which I dont remember having
> >>>>>     troubles with
> >>>>>     > > before. I used to acquire my data such that in MS/MS mode it
> >>>>>     would be
> >>>>>     > > centroided, as in older versions of the TPP, filesizes over
> >>>>>     4gb were
> >>>>>     > > problematic. Since I have noticed this isnt a problem anymore
> >>>>>     in the
> >>>>>     > > newer TPP versions, I am using 4.2.1, I have started acquiring
>
> >>> in
>
> >>>>>     > > continuum mode again for MS/MS. I have MassLynx 4.1 installed,
>
> >>> and
>
> >>>>>     > > have run centroided MS/MS files through the TPP on this
> >>>>>     computer with
> >>>>>     > > no problems.
>
> >>>>>     > > However, if I take one of my new continuum files, it converts
>
> >>> in
>
> >>>>>     > > masswolf with no errors, I am not centroiding in masswolf, or
> >>>>>     using
> >>>>>     > > gzip. When I take it to XTandem it gives me this error:
>
> >>>>>     > > X! TANDEM 2 (2007.07.01.3)
>
> >>>>>     > > Loading spectra ...
> >>>>>     > > This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in
>
> >>> an
>
> >>>>>     > > unusual way.
> >>>>>     > > Please contact the application's support team for more
> >>>>>     information.
>
> >>>>>     > > Any ideas whats happening?

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