Hi,

I´m using OMSSA and the TPP/X!Tandem search (+TPP PeptideProphet/
ProteinProphet) for LC-MS/MS data analysis.

First, I always run OMSSA due to its high performance to have first
information on the sample (for curious colleagues, and to set
priorities), then I make a more thorough analysis using the TPP.

However, OMSSA reports some different peptides as the final TPP
output.

When looking at the *.pep.xml, all peptides found by OMSSA, are also
present in the X!/Tandem-pep.xml file, but not reported at the end of
the pipeline. I already tried to set the p-filter for the
PeptideProphet to very low values (0.0001), but those additional
peptides do not show up.

Example for the trypsin precursor:

TPP reports:
**************

7       gi|136406|sp|P06871.1|TRY1_CANFA  gi|136429|sp|P00761.1|TRYP_PIG
0.9565


confidence: 0.28        max coverage: 4.3%      num unique peps: 1      tot 
indep
spectra: 1      share of spectrum id's: 1.84%


        >RecName: Full=Cationic trypsin; Flags: Precursor       Length: 246aa

        >RecName: Full=Trypsin; Flags: Precursor

                weight  peptide sequence        nsp adj prob    init prob       
ntt     nsp     total   pep grp
ind

        *       wt-1.00         2_LSSPATLNSR    0.9565  0.9851  2       0.00    
1

OMSSA reports (top redundant hits):
******************************************

Peptide:        IITHPnFNGNTLDNDIMLIK    Neutral Mass:     2283.3 Da     Charge 
State:
+3      E-value:        1.203E-006

Peptide:        LGEHNIDVLEGNEQFINAAK    Neutral Mass:     2211.5 Da     Charge 
State:
+3      E-value:        4.363E-009

In both searches I included deamidation of Q/N

Searching those peptides in the TPP *.pep.xml gives:
*************************************************************

index   spectrum        hyperscore      nextscore       bscore  yscore  expect  
ions
peptide         protein
1331    3D-1.01138.01138.3SpectraST     637     558     1       1       0.22    
38/76
R.LGEHNIDVLEGNEQFINAAK.IPeptideAtlas    gi|136429|sp|P00761.1|TRYP_PIG
1339    3D-1.01143.01143.3SpectraST     622     595     1       1       0.71    
34/76
R.LGEHNIDVLEGNEQFINAAK.IPeptideAtlas    gi|136429|sp|P00761.1|TRYP_PIG
1348    3D-1.01149.01149.3SpectraST     632     587     1       1       0.7     
36/76
R.LGEHNIDVLEGNEQFINAAK.IPeptideAtlas    gi|136429|sp|P00761.1|TRYP_PIG
1400    3D-1.01180.01180.3SpectraST     697     649     2       2       0.23    
42/76
R.LGEHNIKVLEGNEQFINAAK.IPeptideAtlas    gi|209572698|sp|P35030.2|
TRY3_HUMAN

and

index   spectrum        hyperscore      nextscore       bscore  yscore  expect  
ions
peptide         protein
815     3D-1.00791.00791.2SpectraST     304     299     1       0       15      
11/18
K.IITHPNFNGN.TPeptideAtlas      gi|136429|sp|P00761.1|TRYP_PIG
1472    3D-1.01223.01223.3SpectraST     569     497     1       1       0.65    
33/76
K.IITHPNFNGNTLDNDIM147.04LIK.LPeptideAtlas      gi|136429|sp|P00761.1|
TRYP_PIG
1490    3D-1.01234.01234.3SpectraST     559     530     1       1       4.9     
30/76
K.IITHPNFNGNTLDNDIM147.04LIK.LPeptideAtlas      gi|136429|sp|P00761.1|
TRYP_PIG
1545    3D-1.01268.01268.3SpectraST     585     555     1       1       4.2     
28/76
K.IITHPNFNGNTLDNDIMLIK.LPeptideAtlas    gi|136429|sp|P00761.1|TRYP_PIG
1553    3D-1.01273.01273.3SpectraST     581     555     1       1       8.4     
24/76
K.IITHPNFNGNTLDNDIMLIK.LPeptideAtlas    gi|136429|sp|P00761.1|TRYP_PIG
1565    3D-1.01280.01280.3SpectraST     531     522     1       2       7.5     
32/76
K.IITHPNFNGNTLDNDIMLIK.LPeptideAtlas    gi|136429|sp|P00761.1|TRYP_PIG

So, obviously, those peptides did not pass the PeptideProphet filter.

** Any recommendation, how to fix this to obtain a higher sequence
coverage  in the TPP? **

Note:
If I tick the PeptideProphet Option " Force the fitting of the mixture
model (bypass automatic mixture model checks) " I increase the
sequence coverage of other proteins, but those trypsin fragments
still do not show up.

Thanks a lot and greetings,

Robert

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