Hi Bill,
I am the one who wrote it several years back.  I derived the fval
somewhat by voodoo, using analysis tools I created in CPAS.  It tested
quite well, and if anything produces slightly conservative
probabilities, where I felt the k-score fval was slightly optimistic
in its estimates (but only slightly).  Note that the k-score fval was
derived for the scoring function originally published by Keller, et
al, before the score was incorporated into X! Tandem, and therefore
makes no use of X! Tandem's expect value.

These fval calculations can be found in <tpproot>/src/Validation/
DiscriminateFunction/Tandem (for native scoring) and Comet (for k-
score).

I remember that a peptide length correction (I think sqrt(length)
actually) was important in the final native fval.  Because of how
aggressively X! Tandem weights the presence of matching ions, a larger
peptide is more likely to produce a wider spread between its best and
second best score, the key factor in the expectation value.

Hope that helps.

--Brendan

On Sep 15, 2:30 pm, bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> If this is not easily available can you direct me to the class/script/
> method that creates the xtandem fval?
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> On Sep 14, 4:16 pm, Bill Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Can you please explain how ProteinProphet calculates the fval from the
> > xtandem output?
> > It doesn't seem to be tracking the xtandem E-value, what else is
> > included?
> > Thanks,
> > Bill

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