I think the key part in your output is this:


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Warning: One or more sequences appear to contain invalid amino acid codes.

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I think this is a warning that we put in to warn that X!Tandem may crash
because of your database. You should check your database for validity.
Perhaps there are some strange characters in one of the sequences that
causes X!Tandem to crash sometimes, but not Comet. We have seen this before.



Eric







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*Sent:* Monday, October 06, 2014 7:45 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [spctools-discuss] X!tandem error



thank you Jimmy.
I will try the search w/o refinement.
I will let you know if the problem solved.

SunSun

On Monday, October 6, 2014 1:13:01 AM UTC+8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

I don't know what the issue is with X!Tandem but just wanted to comment on
an unrelated issue which is that you should think twice about using
X!Tandem's refinement mode, especially if you are going to push those
search results through PeptideProphet or even simple target-decoy FDR.  All
proteins that make it to the refinement step (and their corresponding
peptides identified before or after refinement) will all have
distorted/high statistics.  Here are two publications that discuss this
problem:



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19947654

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21288048



The simple solution is to not use refinement mode.



On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 1:09 AM, zeyu sun <[email protected] <javascript:>>
wrote:

Hi, Dear SPC users and developers:
I'm wondering if anyone have some clue or remedy to the problem I have with
the X!tandem search in TPP(v4.7.1):
I have some Orbitrap Velos data in RAW and converted them to mzXML files by
MSconverter (ProteoWizard).
I ran the Comet pipeline on them and everything was just fine.
However, when I search the same mzXMLs by Tandem, some of those files gave
error reports:
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X! TANDEM Jackhammer TPP (2013.06.15.1 - LabKey, Insilicos, ISB)

Loading spectra (mzParser)............................ loaded.
Spectra matching criteria = 55267
Pluggable scoring enabled.
Starting threads . started.
Computing models:
    12345678
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Warning: One or more sequences appear to contain invalid amino acid codes.

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9    sequences modelled = 9 ks
Model refinement:
    partial cleavage .......... done.
    finishing refinement ... done.
Creating report:
    initial calculations  ..... done.
    sorting  ..... done.
    finding repeats ..... done.
    evaluating results ..... done.
    calculating expectations ..... done.
    writing results ..... done.

command "c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\tandem
c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/xxx.tandem.params" failed: Unknown error

Command FAILED
RETURN CODE:65280
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Despite this error message, the .tandem files were generated,
When I use the command tandem2XML to convert the .tandem files to .pep.xml,
as expected, it didn't work out:
Operation not permitted
Command FAILED
 RETURN CODE:256

It only happens in few mzXML files, not all of them. And Comet runs OK on
all files, so I guess the mzXMLs should be fine.
I further checked .tandem files, looks like they contain all necessary
parts of Xtandem search results, and all spectra-peptide matches were
listed there with scores. I just don't know why such files still gave error
message and cannot go through tandem2XML.
Please help!
Thank you very much!

SunSun

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