Hi David,

Thanks for the reply, does the model take modification into account or it's 
based on only sequence? And should I remove modified peptides from training?

Thanks
Chih-Chiang

On Friday, December 5, 2014 1:25:38 PM UTC-5, David Shteynberg wrote:
>
> Hi Chih-Chiang, 
>
> You are correct, I just checked the code and the PEPXML option has the 
> following comment I left there in the code: 
>
>   if (!pepxmlfile.empty()) { 
>     //TODO: DDS Implement rtcalc->parse_pepXML(pepxmlfile); 
>     return 0; 
>   } 
>
> So I haven't implemented that feature yet and should remove it from 
> the usage statement.  However,  you should still be able to get 
> results by pasting a list of peptides and RTs in two columns.  The 
> tool has two different training modes.  The basic mode uses a linear 
> regression model based on peptide properties, the ANN model uses an 
> artificial neural network based on peptide amino acid positional 
> information and other peptide properties.  They are different learning 
> algorithms. 
>
> -David 
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Chih-Chiang Tsou 
> <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > Hi David, 
> > 
> > I am trying to use rtcalc to train a prediction model directly from 
> PepXML. 
> > Is the option "PEPXML" for that? it didn't work for me. 
> > Another question is what's the difference between coefficient file and 
> ANN 
> > model file? 
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > Chih-Chiang 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:29:18 PM UTC-4, [email protected] 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Yep - this works fine, thanks! 
> >> 
> >> Cheers, 
> >> 
> >> Magnus 
> >> 
> >> On Wednesday, 17 April 2013 17:49:46 UTC+2, [email protected] 
> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Hi David, 
> >>> 
> >>> Somehow I missed your reply (which was very quick). I will give it a 
> try 
> >>> now - thanks! 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Magnus 
> >>> 
> >>> On Thursday, 28 March 2013 22:28:34 UTC+1, David Shteynberg wrote: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks for the files you've provided.  I was able to find and fix one 
> >>>> error in the code.  TPP revision 6171 from trunk should contain this 
> fix. 
> >>>> Also I found an error in your commands.  When you train a a Neural 
> Net with 
> >>>> RTCalc you have to use the ANN= option if you want to then apply the 
> trained 
> >>>> model to data.  Here are my commands on your files using my new code: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> RTCalc TRAIN=list2_predictions_no_neg.txt ANN=list2_ann_DDS.coeff 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> RTCalc PEPS=peptides.txt ANN=list2_ann_DDS.coeff 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I hope it works for you too! 
> >>>> 
> >>>> -David 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:58 AM, [email protected] 
> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> OK - I sent the training set and the ANN model by e-mail. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Thursday, 28 March 2013 18:49:41 UTC+1, David Shteynberg wrote: 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Hi Magnus, 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Can you forward me the files you have and the commands you are 
> using 
> >>>>>> and I will debug? 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Thanks, 
> >>>>>> -David 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:47 AM, [email protected] 
> >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Dear All (especially David), 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I am trying to use the ANN retention time predictor. The training 
> >>>>>>> runs OK, but when trying to use it I get this error: 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> gsl: init_source.c:29: ERROR: vector length n must be positive 
> >>>>>>> integer 
> >>>>>>> Default GSL error handler invoked. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an 
> >>>>>>> unusual way. 
> >>>>>>> Please contact the application's support team for more 
> information. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I used ca. 60,000 different peptides in the training set. How many 
> >>>>>>> would be needed? What are the things to look out for? 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Cheers, 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Magnus 
> >>>>>>> 
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