Although a bit awkward, Tandem does support multiple static modifications,
which can be used in a creative manner in cases such as this:



http://thegpm.org/TANDEM/api/rmm.html



Eric





*From:* [email protected] [mailto:
[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Brian Hampton
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2015 9:23 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [spctools-discuss] Any tips on how to analyzed triple
labeled data?



The Tandem API states that it can’t handle more than one variable
modification on a given residue. See: http://thegpm.org/TANDEM/api/rpmm.html.
There is a work-around in that document where you specify e.g. the light as
a static mod and the difference between the heavy and light as a variable
mod for a given residue.  So I don’ think your triple label search will
work with Tandem unless you do three different searches, one for each label
and use PeptideProphet to combine them into a single pepXML file for input
to ProteinProphet.



Then there is Comet.  I’ve been using the version of Comet in TPP 4.8 and
it seems to work nicely with  multiple variable modifications on the same
residue.  I’m only using a dual di-methyl labeling strategy.  Not sure if
it would work with triple labeled, but the parameter inputs allow for up to
9 variable mods to be specified:
http://comet-ms.sourceforge.net/parameters/parameters_201501/variable_mod01.php



How are you planning on doing the quantification once you get the searches
to go successfully?



Cheers,



Brian



On Apr 21, 2015, at 5:55 AM, Alejandro <[email protected]> wrote:



Hello all,



I have some experiments in which the samples were triple dimethyl labeled.
Does any of you have any tips on how to analyze these data with later
version of TPP?



I looked through the list but only could find a couple of posts.



So far my ideas would be to do:



1. Static searches of Heavy, Medium and Light and then analyze H/M, and
H/L, and deduce the M/L by dividing the ratios of (H/L)/(H/L) ?



So far I'm doing that, however after Peptide/ProteinProphet the results of
each vary quite abit and might end up with peptides/proteins with a ratio
in just two conditions and not in the three. Usually this also happens in
MaxQuant in triple labeled but only in very few hits.



2. Would it be possible to run a variable search for all three
modifications in XTandem in one run, Heavy, Medium, Light and then just
process H/M and H/L with Peptide/ProteinProphet?





Maybe some of you had any experience with this, any tips or help would be
appreciated!



Thanks,



Alejandro



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