Hello Steven,

It appears that you are using a very old version of the TPP.  I wonder if
you can test the latest version.

Thanks,
-David

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 6:53 AM, Steven Shuken <[email protected]> wrote:

> The computer has 16 GB of RAM. It is a lot but I don't mind the search
> running for a few days as long as it runs. I don't think memory was the
> issue because the searches ended so fast and the comet search is running
> fine. I need the X!Tandem search to run.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 10:53:21 PM UTC-7, Jimmy Eng wrote:
>>
>> How much RAM does your computer have?  158K spectra is a lot of spectra
>> to load at once, especially using the k-score pluggable scoring option
>> compared to native Tandem, so there's a chance that the program ran out of
>> memory if you don't have lots of it on your machine.  Monitor task manager
>> while the search is running to see if this might be the problem.
>>
>> Hopefully you've set "spectrum_batch_size" to some non-zero value in your
>> Comet search.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Steven Shuken <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm a grad student trying to put a SWATH library together. To learn how
>>> to do this I looked up this paper by the Aebersold lab in 2015 which walks
>>> the reader through the process: https://www.nature.co
>>> m/nprot/journal/v10/n3/full/nprot.2015.015.html
>>>
>>> I'm following the protocol which pointed me to download the X!Tandem
>>> parameters below. Using these parameters, I get the error messages (farther
>>> below) when trying to search the converted mzXML files using X!Tandem on
>>> TPP. Any tips? I saw from a discussion in this group in 2013 that this may
>>> be a parameter issue (Comet search has been running for hours but seems to
>>> be working/hasn't given any errors) so I'll keep troubleshooting there.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Parameters:
>>> <?xml version="1.0"?>
>>> <?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="tandem-input-style.xsl"?>
>>> <bioml>
>>>
>>> <note>spectrum parameters</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, parent monoisotopic mass error
>>> minus">50</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, parent monoisotopic mass error
>>> plus">50</note>
>>>         <note>PRECURSOR MASS TOLERANCE. This is monoisotopic mass, so
>>> for non-accurate-mass instruments, for which the precursor is often taken
>>> nearer to the isotopically averaged mass, an asymmetric tolerance (-2.0 Da
>>> to 4.0 Da) is preferable. This somewhat imitates a (-3.0 Da to 3.0 Da)
>>> window for averaged mass (but not exactly).</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, parent monoisotopic mass isotope
>>> error">no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, fragment monoisotopic mass error
>>> units">ppm</note>
>>> <note>The value for this parameter may be 'Daltons' or 'ppm': all other
>>> values are ignored</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, parent monoisotopic mass error
>>> units">ppm</note>
>>> <note>The value for this parameter may be 'Daltons' or 'ppm': all other
>>> values are ignored</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, fragment monoisotopic mass
>>> error">100</note>
>>>         <note>This parameter has no effect in k-score scoring.</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, fragment mass
>>> type">monoisotopic</note>
>>> <note>values are monoisotopic|average </note>
>>>
>>> <note>spectrum conditioning parameters</note>
>>>         <note type="input" label="spectrum, use conditioning">no</note>
>>> <note>For k-score scoring, it is recommended spectrum conditioning be
>>> turned OFF for best performance. All of the spectrum filtering and
>>> preprocessing options below in this section will be inactive.</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, dynamic range">10000.0</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, total peaks">400</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, maximum parent charge">5</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, use noise suppression">yes</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, minimum parent m+h">600.0</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, minimum fragment mz">125.0</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, minimum peaks">10</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, threads">1</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="spectrum, sequence batch size">1000</note>
>>> <note>residue modification parameters</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="residue, modification mass">57.021464@C</note>
>>> <note>STATIC MODIFICATION. The format of this parameter is m@X, where m
>>> is the modfication mass in Daltons and X is the appropriate residue to
>>> modify. Lists of modifications are separated by commas. For example, to
>>> modify M and C with the addition of 16.0 Daltons, the parameter line would
>>> be +16.0@M,+16.0@C. Positive and negative values are allowed.</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="residue, potential modification
>>> mass">15.994915@M</note>
>>> <note>VARIABLE MODIFICATION. The format of this parameter is the same as
>>> the format for residue, modification mass (see above).</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="residue, potential modification motif"></note>
>>> <note>VARIABLE MODIFICATION IN A MOTIF. The format of this parameter is
>>> similar to residue, modification mass, with the addition of a modified
>>> PROSITE notation sequence motif specification. For example, a value of 
>>> 80@[ST!]PX[KR]
>>> indicates a modification of either S or T when followed by P, and residue
>>> and the a K or an R. A value of 204@N!{P}[ST]{P} indicates a
>>> modification of N by 204, if it is NOT followed by a P, then either an S or
>>> a T, NOT followed by a P. Positive and negative values are allowed. </note>
>>>
>>> <note>protein parameters</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="protein, taxon">no default</note>
>>> <note>SEQUENCE DATABASE TO SEARCH. This refers to identifiers in
>>> taxonomy.xml.</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="protein, cleavage site">[RK]|{P}</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="protein, cleavage semi">no</note>
>>> <note>ENZYME SPECIFICITY. This setting corresponds to the enzyme
>>> trypsin. The first characters in brackets represent residues N-terminal to
>>> the bond - the '|' pipe - and the second set of characters represent
>>> residues C-terminal to the bond. The characters must be in square brackets
>>> (denoting that only these residues are allowed for a cleavage) or french
>>> brackets (denoting that these residues cannot be in that position). Use
>>> UPPERCASE characters. To denote cleavage at any residue, use [X]|[X] and
>>> reset the scoring, maximum missed cleavage site parameter (see below) to
>>> something like 50. </note>
>>> <note type="input" label="protein, modified residue mass file"></note>
>>> <note type="input" label="protein, N-terminal residue modification
>>> mass"></note>
>>> <note type="input" label="protein, C-terminal residue modification
>>> mass"></note>
>>> <note type="input" label="protein, homolog management">no</note>
>>> <note>if yes, an upper limit is set on the number of homologues kept for
>>> a particular spectrum</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="protein, quick acetyl">no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="protein, quick pyrolidone">no</note>
>>>
>>> <note>model refinement parameters</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="refine">no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="refine, modification mass"></note>
>>> <note type="input" label="refine, sequence path"></note>
>>> <note type="input" label="refine, tic percent">10</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="refine, spectrum synthesis">yes</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="refine, maximum valid expectation
>>> value">0.1</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="refine, potential N-terminus
>>> modifications"></note>
>>> <note type="input" label="refine, potential C-terminus
>>> modifications"></note>
>>> <note type="input" label="refine, unanticipated cleavage">no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="refine, potential modification mass"></note>
>>> <note type="input" label="refine, point mutations">no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="refine, use potential modifications for full
>>> refinement">no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="refine, point mutations">no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="refine, potential modification motif"></note>
>>>
>>> <note>scoring parameters</note>
>>>
>>>         <note type="input" label="scoring, algorithm">k-score</note>
>>>   <note type="input" label="scoring, minimum ion count">4</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="scoring, maximum missed cleavage
>>> sites">2</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="scoring, x ions">no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="scoring, y ions">yes</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="scoring, z ions">no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="scoring, a ions">no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="scoring, b ions">yes</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="scoring, c ions">no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="scoring, cyclic permutation">no</note>
>>> <note>if yes, cyclic peptide sequence permutation is used to pad the
>>> scoring histograms</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="scoring, include reverse">no</note>
>>> <note>if yes, then reversed sequences are searched at the same time as
>>> forward sequences</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="scoring, cyclic permutation">no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="scoring, include reverse">no</note>
>>>
>>> <note>output parameters</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, log path"></note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, message">1234567890</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, sequence path"></note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, path">output.xml</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, sort results by">spectrum</note>
>>> <note>values = protein|spectrum (spectrum is the default)</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, path hashing">no</note>
>>> <note>values = yes|no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, xsl path">tandem-style.xsl</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, parameters">yes</note>
>>> <note>values = yes|no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, performance">yes</note>
>>> <note>values = yes|no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, spectra">no</note>
>>> <note>values = yes|no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, histograms">no</note>
>>> <note>values = yes|no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, proteins">yes</note>
>>> <note>values = yes|no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, sequences">no</note>
>>> <note>values = yes|no</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, one sequence copy">no</note>
>>> <note>values = yes|no, set to yes to produce only one copy of each
>>> protein sequence in the output xml</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, results">all</note>
>>> <note>values = all|valid|stochastic</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, maximum valid expectation
>>> value">0.1</note>
>>> <note>value is used in the valid|stochastic setting of output,
>>> results</note>
>>> <note type="input" label="output, histogram column width">30</note>
>>> <note>values any integer greater than 0. Setting this to '1' makes
>>> cutting and pasting histograms into spread sheet programs easier.</note>
>>>
>>> <note type="description">ADDITIONAL EXPLANATIONS</note>
>>> <note type="description">Each one of the parameters for X! tandem is
>>> entered as a labeled note node. In the current version of X!, keep those
>>> note nodes on a single line.</note>
>>> <note type="description">The presence of the type 'input' is necessary
>>> if a note is to be considered an input parameter. </note>
>>> <note type="description">Any of the parameters that are paths to files
>>> may require alteration for a particular installation. Full path names
>>> usually cause the least trouble, but there is no reason not to use relative
>>> path names, if that is the most convenient.</note>
>>> <note type="description">Any parameter values set in the 'list path,
>>> default parameters' file are reset by entries in the normal input file, if
>>> they are present. Otherwise, the default set is used. </note>
>>> <note type="description">The 'list path, taxonomy information' file must
>>> exist.</note>
>>> <note type="description">The directory containing the 'output, path'
>>> file must exist: it will not be created.</note>
>>> <note type="description">The 'output, xsl path' is optional: it is only
>>> of use if a good XSLT style sheet exists.</note>
>>>
>>> </bioml>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Errors:
>>>
>>>  Command 1 [Mon Oct 16 17:31:01 2017]        [ Show / Hide ]
>>> *EXECUTING: run_in c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data;
>>> c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\tandem
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_001.tandem.params *
>>>
>>> X! TANDEM Jackhammer TPP (2013.06.15.1 - LabKey, Insilicos, ISB)
>>>
>>> Loading spectra 
>>> (mzParser)................................................................................
>>>  loaded.
>>> Spectra matching criteria = 158033
>>> Pluggable scoring enabled.
>>> Starting threads .
>>> This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual 
>>> way.
>>> Please contact the application's support team for more information.
>>>
>>> command "c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\tandem 
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_001.tandem.params" failed: No 
>>> such process
>>>
>>> *Command FAILED*
>>> RETURN CODE:768
>>>
>>>   Command 2 [Mon Oct 16 17:31:24 2017]        [ Show / Hide ]
>>> *EXECUTING: run_in c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data;
>>> c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\Tandem2XML
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_001.tandem
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_001.tandem.pep.xml *
>>>
>>> Failed to open input file 
>>> 'c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_001.tandem'.
>>>
>>> command "c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\Tandem2XML 
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_001.tandem 
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_001.tandem.pep.xml" failed: 
>>> Operation not permitted
>>>
>>> *Command FAILED*
>>> RETURN CODE:256
>>>
>>>   Command 3 [Mon Oct 16 17:31:24 2017]        [ Show / Hide ]
>>> *EXECUTING: run_in c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data;
>>> c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\tandem
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_010.tandem.params *
>>>
>>> X! TANDEM Jackhammer TPP (2013.06.15.1 - LabKey, Insilicos, ISB)
>>>
>>> Loading spectra 
>>> (mzParser)................................................................................
>>>  loaded.
>>> Spectra matching criteria = 158770
>>> Pluggable scoring enabled.
>>> Starting threads .
>>> This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual 
>>> way.
>>> Please contact the application's support team for more information.
>>>
>>> command "c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\tandem 
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_010.tandem.params" failed: 
>>> Unknown error
>>>
>>> *Command FAILED*
>>> RETURN CODE:65280
>>>
>>>   Command 4 [Mon Oct 16 17:31:48 2017]        [ Show / Hide ]
>>> *EXECUTING: run_in c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data;
>>> c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\Tandem2XML
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_010.tandem
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_010.tandem.pep.xml *
>>>
>>> Failed to open input file 
>>> 'c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_010.tandem'.
>>>
>>> command "c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\Tandem2XML 
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_010.tandem 
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_010.tandem.pep.xml" failed: 
>>> Operation not permitted
>>>
>>> *Command FAILED*
>>> RETURN CODE:256
>>>
>>>   Command 5 [Mon Oct 16 17:31:48 2017]        [ Show / Hide ]
>>> *EXECUTING: run_in c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data;
>>> c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\tandem
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_016.tandem.params *
>>>
>>> X! TANDEM Jackhammer TPP (2013.06.15.1 - LabKey, Insilicos, ISB)
>>>
>>> Loading spectra 
>>> (mzParser)................................................................................
>>>  loaded.
>>> Spectra matching criteria = 158289
>>> Pluggable scoring enabled.
>>> Starting threads .
>>> This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual 
>>> way.
>>> Please contact the application's support team for more information.
>>>
>>> command "c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\tandem 
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_016.tandem.params" failed: 
>>> Unknown error
>>>
>>> *Command FAILED*
>>> RETURN CODE:65280
>>>
>>>   Command 6 [Mon Oct 16 17:32:30 2017]        [ Show / Hide ]
>>> *EXECUTING: run_in c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data;
>>> c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\Tandem2XML
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_016.tandem
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_016.tandem.pep.xml *
>>>
>>> Failed to open input file 
>>> 'c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_016.tandem'.
>>>
>>> command "c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\Tandem2XML 
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_016.tandem 
>>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/nselevse_L120327_016.tandem.pep.xml" failed: 
>>> Operation not permitted
>>>
>>> *Command FAILED*
>>> RETURN CODE:256
>>>
>>>  All commands finished at *Mon Oct 16 17:32:30 2017*
>>> -Steven
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