Hi Allen,
     May I know what software are you using? I'd like to find a similar 
EM-like PeptideProphet algorithm written in other languages. Thanks.

On Monday, September 10, 2007 at 11:28:52 PM UTC-7, Alden wrote:
>
> Dear professor :
>
>     Thanks for your reply : )
>     Yes, I am using a different software which have the same EM-like
> algorithm with ProteinProphet.
>     Because the examples showed here is simple, the protein entries
> probability can be proved to be correct through manual calculation
> according to the EM-like algorithm.
>     Still, I am not sure  whether the peptides' probability can be
> changed or not using the nsp adjustment if their initial probability
> are set as 1.00
>     Thanks!
>
>
> On 9月11日, 上午4时45分, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Dear Alden,
> >
> > Do I understand correctly that you are using not ProteinProphet but a
> > different software? If so, it would be hard to say what wring with
> > your program. Maybe not enough iterations, or the weights are
> > calculated incorrectly.
> >
> > Alexey Nesvizhskii
> > University of Michigan
> >
> > On Sep 8, 12:02 pm, Alden <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone!
> > >     I have noticed that in the tutorial about protein inference
> > > problem [ Molecular & Cellular Proteomics, 2005. 4(10): p.
> > > 1419-1440.], the authors said that  "all subset and subsumable protein
> > > entries are assigned zero probability" using ProteinProphet.
> > >     When I calculate protein probability with my own software which
> > > have the same EM-like algorithm with ProteinProphet, it seems that
> > > that the subset & subsumable protein entries are not always assigned
> > > zero probability.
> > >     Take the following illustration as an example :
> >
> > >                    Pep1      Pep2     Pep3
> > >      Prot A      -          -        -
> > >      Prot B      -          -
> > >      Prot C                   -        -
> >
> > >      Prot B & Prot C are subset of Prot A. We assume the initial
> > > probability of peptide 1, 2 and 3 are 1.00, so the adjustment  of
> > > peptide probability for NSP doesn't work according to eq (5) [ Anal.
> > > Chem. 2003, 75, 4646-4658]. Finally,using the EM-like algorithm, the
> > > probability of each protein is,
> > >                                    Prot A: 0.93
> > >                                    Prot B: 0.54
> > >                                    Prot C: 0.54
> > >      The subset protein entries' probability is not zero !
> >
> > >      Another simple example shows that subsumble protein's probability
> > > is assigned nonzero.  Look at the following  illustration:
> >
> > >                    Pep1'      Pep2'    Pep3'   Pep4'
> > >      Prot A'      -         -
> > >      Prot B'                   -        -
> > >      Prot C'                              -        -
> >
> > >      Prot B' belongs to subsumble protein and the probability is
> > > computed as 0.62 (we also assume the initial probability of peptides
> > > are 1.00).
> >
> > >      Can anyone explain why this happens?
> > >      Looking forward to your reply :-)
>
>

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