Hi Eric,

Thank you for your quick reply.

I am using Mayu with 1% FDR on PSM level (mFDR) for all three libraries. I 
also filter the list to get the protein level FDR of <1% with 
-protFDR=0.01:t. The values I mentioned are extracted from this list 
(lowest score). 
As far as I know, with these settings I am using a protein level FDR 
estimation of <1% (on all three). Is this the correct way I am using it?
The search parameters for both engines are the same and other parameters 
are also kept the same for the libraries.

I think a tool to remove shared peptides would be very useful! Since I did 
not find anything about this how to remove those, I am wondering how people 
'normally' do this. Some papers mention a total of x proteotypic peptides 
and proteins, thus my guess is someone must know how to do this. 

Regards,

Nikita



On Monday, 23 September 2019 17:56:49 UTC+2, Eric Deutsch wrote:
>
> Hi Nikita, perhaps someone has some better answers than I do, but here is 
> what I can say based on your description.
>
>  
>
> Regarding the cutoff, I wonder if in your combined analysis you are using 
> a peptide-level FDR of 1%, whereas in the single analyses you are using an 
> PSM-level FDR of 1%? A peptide-level FDR of 1% is more stringent than a 
> PSM-level FDR of 1% and this might account for the difference?
>
>  
>
> I am not aware of a mode to remove shared peptides from a library, 
> although this does sound like a useful feature. Maybe someone else knows?
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* [email protected] <javascript:> <
> [email protected] <javascript:>> *On Behalf Of *Nikita Boeren
> *Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2019 4:16 AM
> *To:* spctools-discuss <[email protected] <javascript:>>
> *Subject:* [spctools-discuss] Questions about spectral library generation 
> different search engines and shared peptides
>
>  
>
> Dear TPP team and users,
>
>  
>
> I am a graduate student and I am trying to figure out a few things 
> regarding spectral library generation using TPP for SWATH analysis. My 
> questions do not involve direct issues with the use of TPP, but more about 
> the results.
>
>  
>
> My workflow is: Comet or X!Tandem search, PeptideProphet, iProphet, Mayu 
> (1% protein FDR), SpectraST and SpectraST2TSV. 
>
>  
>
> I have used both Comet and X!Tandem search engines to create two 
> libraries. Also, I combined those two search outputs (via iProphet) to 
> create another library. In contrast of what I expected, my final list of 
> proteins in my combined library is less than using only Comet results (see 
> Venn diagram). How can this happen? The cut off probabilities corresponding 
> to protein FDR <1% for Comet (0.897393) and X!Tandem (0.872656) were as 
> expected lower than combined (0.966806). 
>
> Can anyone explain me why the combined library contains less proteins?
>
>  
>
> Also, I would like to ask you how to remove shared peptides from the 
> library without getting format issues in further workflows?
>
>  
>
> Thank you in advance. 
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
>  
>
> Nikita
>
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