Hi David,

Did you manage to grab the data before the link expired?

Thanks,
Alastair

On Monday, 17 August 2020 at 21:23:55 UTC+2 Alastair Skeffington wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Ah sorry - my mistake. Here's a new link with a tarball including the 
> mxXML files.
>
> https://we.tl/t-UnX74n4qod
>
> Many thanks!
> Alastair
>
>
> On Monday, 17 August 2020 20:51:54 UTC+2, David Shteynberg wrote:
>
>> Hello Alastair,
>>
>> I downloaded the file you shared with me, however, there were no mzML 
>> files to match the pepXML files so I couldn't actually try the analysis.  
>>  I will make another attempt if you can provide the mass spec data. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -David
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:21 AM 'Alastair Skeffington' via 
>> spctools-discuss <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
> Hi David,
>>>
>>> The link to the data has now expired, Let me know if you are still 
>>> willing to have a look and I can send it again.
>>>
>>> Otherwise maybe you could briefly describe the process you would go 
>>> through?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Alastair
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 6 August 2020 22:17:00 UTC+2, Alastair Skeffington wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks for your reply.
>>>>
>>>> So it any peptides with modifications will simply be ignored for 
>>>> quantification and I can ignore the warning message?
>>>>
>>>> Yes - each search was either light or heavy as defined in the static 
>>>> modifications. 
>>>>
>>>> And the -r parameter is then the window to search in the RT dimension? 
>>>> Because the command line option says 'range around precursor m/z to search 
>>>> for peak' I assumed this was for the m/z dimension. I thought that the 
>>>> shift of the peak would also mostly be in the m/z dimension - but I'm no 
>>>> mass spectrometrist!
>>>>
>>>> I would be amazing if you had a moment to have a look at the data - 
>>>> thanks very much for offering. I've put two example pairs of files here: 
>>>> https://we.tl/t-cVDD1MVDOr 
>>>>
>>>> For each sample there is a light 'L' version of the search results and 
>>>> a heavy 'H' version. I've also included the search database (based on some 
>>>> PacBio data some I'm afraid it's quite big with a lot of isoforms).
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Alastair
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, 5 August 2020 20:37:16 UTC+2, David Shteynberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Alastair,
>>>>>
>>>>> If your search results are either all heavy or all light (not variable 
>>>>> mod searched) then you should also use option -S.  
>>>>>
>>>>> 1). You cannot specify anything but single amino acids in this 
>>>>> string.  Your quantitation will be based on peptides without PTMs in this 
>>>>> dataset.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2). -r8 is a MUCH too wide window to recover the MS1 signal in 
>>>>> RTspace.  The lower this number the more selective the tool is at 
>>>>> isolating 
>>>>> your target signal.  With -r8 you will not be quantifying the correct 
>>>>> signal, unless you have a very bare sample.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are able to share this data I can try running it to help you 
>>>>> optimize your settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 11:02 AM 'Alastair Skeffington' via 
>>>>> spctools-discuss <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm trying to run a 14N/15N labelling experiment through ASAPRatio. 
>>>>>> I've been running the first steps like this - here for the results of a 
>>>>>> database search with heavy masses:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> InteractParser sample_interact.pep.xml sample.pep.xml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PeptideProphetParser sample_interact.pep.xml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RefreshParser sample_interact.pep.xml 
>>>>>> ./EhuxAllproteins_MCC_decoy.fasta
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ASAPRatioPeptideParser sample_interact.pep.xml  
>>>>>> -lACDEFGHIKLMNPQRSTVWY -r8 
>>>>>> -mA72.0779R160.1857N116.1026D116.0874C104.1429E130.1140Q130.1292G58.0513H140.1393I114.1576L114.1576K130.1723M132.1961F148.1739P99.1152S89.0773T102.1038W188.0793Y164.0633V101.1311
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At this point I get a warning:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WARNING: Found more than one variable mod on 'M'. Please make sure to 
>>>>>> specify a heavy mass for this residue
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I have two questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) How do I specify the heavy mass for oxidised methionine? Mox ? And 
>>>>>> is phosphorylated serine coded Sp ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) I've used -r8 instead of the default 0.5. My reasoning is that a 
>>>>>> medium sized heavy peptide could easily differ from the 14N counterpart 
>>>>>> by 
>>>>>> 16 Da. Assuming charge +2, then using a m/z range of 8. Does this sound 
>>>>>> remotely sensible?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>>> Alastair
>>>>>>
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