It appears you forgot to include the _DECOY version of the database.  Can
you check?

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 3:27 PM Asif Ahmed <kh.asifahme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> In my sample- N15 fed (heavy) female fly mated with N14 (normal) male fly,
> after mating, I dissected the female reproductive organs and process the
> sample using S-trap kit.
> So, "theoretically" in the mated female reproductive tract proteome, there
> would be plenty of female proteins (which would be N15) and a tiny amount
> of male proteins (N14 proteins).
> Our aim is to identify male-originated proteins from the samples and for
> now, I just focused on normal search rather than N15 labelling search.
> The protocol worked well for PD's SequestHT, Comet and Tandem search
> giving ~150 hits, and now trying to add MsGf+ in the analysis.w
> For the database, we are using trinity assembly of male reproductive organ
> RNAseq, made a 6 frame translation of the assembly and add decoys (with
> prefix of DECOY_ ).
>
> For peptide prophet in petunia, I used the following parameters, as shown
> in the tutorial (not any unusual settings at all).
>
> *Use accurate mass binning, using PPM,  *
> *Use decoy hits to pin down the negative distribution. Decoy Protein names
> begin with: DECOY_,  *
> *Use Non-parametric model and *
> *Report decoy hits with a computed probability*
>
> Please find the datasets containing:
> Thermo RAW data file (201010_P31528_Sample_S1_QE_HFX_HpH_7_5p2.raw),
> mzML file (201010_P31528_Sample_S1_QE_HFX_HpH_7_5p2.mzML),
> mzid file with conf (asiftest_instrument2_S1.mzid and MSGFPlus_conf.txt) ,
> Trinity database fasta file (with decoy), and resulted file from peptide
> prophet (MsGF_inst1_interact.ipro.pep.xml).
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rULaUtY9j2Ke7N6Z_hIa_a_JyY3admvj/view?usp=sharing
>
> ASIF
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 8:48:19 AM UTC+11 David Shteynberg
> wrote:
>
>> You can compress the directory and post your dataset in the cloud and I
>> will pull it down.   Perhaps you can start with your search parameters.
>> N15 labelling creates mass-shifts on every amino acid, how are you setting
>> these?  What PeptideProphet options are you using?  Any unusual options you
>> are setting to get this data to process?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 1:29 PM Asif Ahmed <kh.asif...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply and appreciate  your interpretation.
>>>
>>> How can i share the dataset with you? I assume you might need the mzXML
>>> file (~1.2gb), mzid file (/pepxml file) and the database file?
>>>
>>> Asif
>>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 5:43 am, 'David Shteynberg' via spctools-discuss <
>>> spctools...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Asif,
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately this analysis tells me that the DECOY-estimated FDR
>>>> (error rate) is about 50%-60% amongst the highest scoring proteins in this
>>>> analysis.  I don't believe these are "acceptable" results.  The problem is
>>>> likely somewhere upstream of the ProteinProphet analysis, I cannot exactly
>>>> tell without seeing more of the dataset.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 5:00 AM Asif Ahmed <kh.asif...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I ran a MSgf+ search (with decoy) for my samples (a mixture of N14 and
>>>>> N15 proteins, want to detect N14 proteins in the sample) converted 
>>>>> resulted
>>>>> .mzid file to pepXML using IDconvert, changed the paths using "update 
>>>>> path"
>>>>> and run Peptideprophet *(Use accurate mass binning, using PPM ,  Use
>>>>> decoy hits to pin down the negative distribution ,  Decoy Protein names
>>>>> begin with: DECOY_,  Use Non-parametric model and report decoy hits)*
>>>>> and iprophet and protein prophet combined (as default settings) in 
>>>>> Petunia.
>>>>>
>>>>> The run went well without any error, but the models of "Learned NSP
>>>>> distribution" as well as others are showing some abnormality. Can you
>>>>> advise me, based on the fitted models, can I can accept the result at 0.99
>>>>> to 1 probability?
>>>>>
>>>>> ASIF
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: msgf1.PNG]
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: msgf2.PNG]
>>>>>
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