great, thanks Wayne!

Jilayne
SPDX Legal Team co-lead
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> On Dec 21, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Wayne Beaton 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> My apologies. I just found the earlier response in my email backlog.
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to (re)respond.
> 
> We can live with this. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 11:55 AM, J Lovejoy <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> I thought we had addressed this, but Philippe is correct:
> As per our Matching Guidelines - 
> https://spdx.org/spdx-license-list/matching-guidelines 
> <https://spdx.org/spdx-license-list/matching-guidelines> - this would match 
> to BSD-3-Clause. If you look at the HTML page for BSD-3-Clause, you can see a 
> visual representation of the text that is allowed to be “replaceable” as per 
> matching guideline 2.1.3 in red text: 
> https://spdx.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause.html 
> <https://spdx.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause.html>
> 
> Where a license is a match according to our guidelines, we don’t add the 
> license, as that would be repetitive and we encourage people to use the 
> identifier for the existing license already on the list. A key goal of the 
> SPDX License List is to create consistent ways to identify licenses - having 
> two identifiers for the same license text does not really reach that goal.
> 
> In this case, I’d have to also ask - why wouldn’t you want to use the common 
> and well known name for a very common and well known license, instead of a 
> “vanity name”? 
> 
> Thanks,
> Jilayne
> 
>  
> SPDX Legal Team co-lead
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> 
> 
>> On Dec 21, 2017, at 1:40 AM, Philippe Ombredanne <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Wayne, Simon,
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Wayne Beaton
>> <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> How can I help make this happen?
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 6:04 AM, Simon Bernard <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>>  I would like to now if this could make sense to add the "EDL - Eclipse
>>>> Distribution License" to spdx ?
>>>>  I ask the question because it seems this is a
>>>> https://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause 
>>>> <https://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause>.
>>>>  See : https://eclipse.org/org/documents/edl-v10.php 
>>>> <https://eclipse.org/org/documents/edl-v10.php>
>>>>  But many eclipse projects use it and this could help to identify it
>>>> quickly with tools like spdx.
>> 
>> The problem with the EDL is that its text is strictly the BSD-3-Clause.
>> 
>> The only differences would be:
>> 1. an extra name that may not be present
>> 2. possibly an Eclipse copyright holder
>> 
>> IMHO these two are not sufficient to warrant a new license in SPDX.
>> 
>> On the detection side, I used to have EDL as a "named" license in
>> Scancode, but I removed it [1] a while back to use it as a plain
>> detection rule instead: this was creating too many detection
>> ambiguities as both the EDL and BSD would be detected exactly, because
>> they are one and the same text-wise.
>> 
>> So some questions:
>> 1. Why would be using BSD-3-Clause a problem to you?
>> 2. How can you distinguish at all times a BSD-3-Clause from and EDL?
>> 
>> I would be happy to bring back a specialized detection in ScanCode if
>> you can provide me with some non-ambiguous rules in which case you
>> would have a license ref but not an official SPDX id. This may be good
>> enough?
>> 
>> [1] 
>> https://github.com/nexB/scancode-toolkit/commit/685a8b38b1f156793307a737e003ee5726a81c62
>>  
>> <https://github.com/nexB/scancode-toolkit/commit/685a8b38b1f156793307a737e003ee5726a81c62>
>> -- 
>> Cordially
>> Philippe Ombredanne
>> 
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