Jack,

Yes, I think it is worth to consider public accessibility of spdxdocs.

A component web service might help to search and provide meta data of a 
component such as spdxdocs uuids, versions, etc. e.g. 
http://spdx.org/components/ or provide http://spdx.org/spdxdocs/ as a human 
entrypoint to find or browse meta data and a dedicated machine interface via 
specific URL such as this: http://spdx.org/spdxdocs/id/ 

Whenever multiple SPDX docs from different vendors are available for the same 
package UUID, the web service can provide proper info to the client with a list 
of available SPDX docs. A SPDX consumer might then query this pattern:
http://spdx.org/spdxdocs/id/[uuidv5 source package]_[UUIDv5 vendor domain]

UUID v5 (SHA-1 hash) could be an option to store the SHA-1 checksum of a source 
package
=> would be very ease to use: create a UUIDv5 of source.tar.gz and get a spdxdoc
... Not part of the standard yet.

or use a Download-URL which is defined by rfc4122, e.g.
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi?path=/thrift/0.9.1/thrift-0.9.1.tar.gz
=> e6e79469-4e7e-5bdc-8a03-b6b65fa0f609
http://spdx.org/spdxdocs/id/e6e79469-4e7e-5bdc-8a03-b6b65fa0f609

or use domain names which is also a standard option within rfc4122

UUID v3 (Random) can be used as a fallback for any other case


Just some ideas, all the best!
-roger

PS:
A Universally Unique IDentifier (UUID) URN Namespace 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4122
https://servicecore.info/tools/uuid-generator/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:spdx-tech-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Manbeck, Jack
> Sent: Freitag, 4. April 2014 20:57
> To: Gary O'Neall; 'Bill Schineller'; 'Nuno Brito'
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: proposed language for referencing element in one SPDX document
> from another
> 
> Another alternative is to just use a guid by itself as a URI - e.g.:
> urn:uuid:3F2504E0-4F89-41D3-9A0C-0305E82C3301.  Less readable, but unique.
> 
> Agreed. I like the idea of having a human readable portion re
> http://spdx.org/spdxdocs/3F2504E0-4F89-41D3-9A0C-0305E82C3301-spdx-tools-v1.2
> 
> I'm also wondering if we should switch and have the human readable portion
> first, e.g.
> http://spdx.org/spdxdocs/spdx-tools-v1.2-3F2504E0-4F89-41D3-9A0C-0305E82C3301
> 
> Note: spdx.org spdxdocs will not be accessible on the website.
> Hmmm.. What if it were? I suppose there are lots of potential issues on that
> but would it be interesting enough to consider?
> 
> Jack
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary O'Neall [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 2:38 PM
> To: 'Bill Schineller'; Manbeck, Jack; 'Nuno Brito'
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: proposed language for referencing element in one SPDX document
> from another
> 
> Thanks Bill for pulling this together.
> 
> Should we prescribe how the unique identifiers are built in the RDF document
> to make it easier to translate between tag/value and RDF?
> 
> If so, I added some proposed language inline below.
> 
> There may also be a case where someone is producing an SPDX doc and they are
> not part of an organization which has a unique namespace.  I'm not sure if
> this would really be an issue, but we could come up with a naming scheme for
> that situation using spdx.org domain.  For example:
> 
> If the producing person is not part of an organization which has a unique
> basename, the following basename can be use:
> http://spdx.org/spdxdocs/[guid]-[packageVersionid]
> where packageVersionid is a human readable name that describes the content of
> the SPDX document and guid is a generated version 4 globally unique ID.
> A new GUID would be generated for each document.  Example:
> http://spdx.org/spdxdocs/3F2504E0-4F89-41D3-9A0C-0305E82C3301-spdx-tools-v1.
> 2
> Note: spdx.org spdx docs will not be accessible on the website.
> 
> Another alternative is to just use a guid by itself as a URI - e.g.:
> urn:uuid:3F2504E0-4F89-41D3-9A0C-0305E82C3301.  Less readable, but unique.
> 
> Gary
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:spdx-tech-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Schineller
> > Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 7:03 AM
> > To: Manbeck, Jack; Nuno Brito
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: proposed language for referencing element in one SPDX
> > document from another
> >
> > Hi Nuno, Jack, all -
> >
> >   I agree with Jack.  How does the extra Note I added below sound?
> > - Bill
> >
> >
> > Producers of SPDX data are expected to 'own' a namespace for their
> > organization. (e.g. 'http://acme.com/spdx')
> >
> > When releasing an SPDX document for external consumption, its basename
> > must be unique within the namespace of the producing organization.
> > (e.g. http://acme.com/spdx/mypackage-1-2.spdx  where the organization
> > will not distribute another modified file with same basename
> > 'mypackage-1-2.spdx' )
> >
> > [Note: Establishing a 'namespace of the producing organization' does
> > not necessarily imply/require that SPDX documents get posted publicly
> > on the internet.  An organization could confidentially share SPDX
> > documents it produces with partners.  Regardless, the producing
> > organization should uniquely identify itself as with a namespace it
> > 'owns' (e.g. "http://acme.com/spdx";).
> > SPDX documents it distributes (whether over the internet or in a
> > folder of some archive/container transmitted privately) should have
> > unique basenames within the namespace / realm of every SPDX document
> > the producing organization has ever distributed. Inside each
> > distributed SPDX document, the namespace of the producing organization
> > will be part of the unique id of the 'SPDXDocument' element (e.g. the
> > leading part of 'http://acme.com/spdx/mypackage-1-2.spdx'). The
> > consumer of the SPDX document shouldn't expect that the document will
> > be available at a publicly accessible URL
> > 'http://acme.com/spdx/mypackage-1-2.spdx', and in the case that it is
> > not, the consumer should keep a copy of the SPDX document it received
> locally at a sensibly named location (e.g.
> > '/myspdxcache/spdx/com/acme/mypackage-1-2.spdx).  The SPDX spec does
> > not prescribe how consumed SPDX docs are handled locally, so consumers
> > should take care to keep docs they received in a location they can be
> > found internally.
> >  ]
> >
> >
> > [Note: if the organization subsequently releases an update to their
> > SPDX analysis for same package, the updated document must carry a new,
> > unique basename, e.g. 'mypackage-1-2-rev1.spdx']
> >
> > [Note: best practice is to use the .spdx suffix on all SPDX documents,
> > regardless of tag-value or RDF format]
> >
> > Additionally, an accompanying file with the SHA-1 hash of the file
> > should sit alongside it, named the same, plus the extension .sha1
> > (e.g. 'http://acme.com/spdx/mypackage-1-2.spdx.sha1'  The contents of
> > the .sha1 file is a single line with the sha1 of the published .spdx
> > file.)
> >
> > Within the SPDX document, each SPDXElement (including subclasses)
> > shall be assigned a unique id (unique within the scope of the
> > document.)
> 
> For tag-value format, each field shall have an SPDXRef-[idString] with a
> unique identifier for each element.
> In RDF format, the unique id is the resource URI identified formed by the SPDX
> document URI concatenated with #SPDXRef-[idSTring].
> 
> > [Note: for tag-value format, this means populating the field SPDXRef-
> > [idString] with a unique identifier for each element. In RDF format,
> > the unique id is the resource URI identifier.]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Manbeck, Jack [[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:13 AM
> > To: Nuno Brito; Bill Schineller
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: proposed language for referencing element in one SPDX
> > document     from another
> >
> > Hi Nuno,
> >
> > As far as I understand it using a company web address does not
> > necessarily mean the document is available over the Internet. It's
> > just a way to provide uniqueness. We are also looking at providing a
> > default name space at spdx.org but that would require use of a UID in
> > case someone did not have domain name.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:spdx-tech-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Nuno Brito
> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 8:18 AM
> > To: Bill Schineller
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: proposed language for referencing element in one SPDX
> > document from another
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > The proposed approach is useful. I will try it out in practice.
> >
> > Just have one question in regards to:
> > > When releasing an SPDX document for external consumption, its
> > basename
> > > must be unique within the namespace of the producing organization.
> > > (e.g. http://acme.com/spdx/mypackage-1-2.spdx  where the
> > > organization will not publish another file with basename
> > > 'mypackage-1-2.spdx' )
> >
> > I have cases where the document is included on the distribution
> > package but where the owners are not willing to make it available to
> > public (just privately to selected companies).
> >
> > Meaning, a network location isn't possible as namespace. I'm currently
> > referring to other SPDX documents within the folder structure as
> > solution.
> >
> > To keep the URI scheme possible and reference documents within the
> > folders, would something like this be possible?
> >
> > file:///./spdx/mypackage-1-2.spdx
> >
> > Or perhaps I misunderstood the intention of namespaces. My thanks in
> > advance.
> >
> >
> > With kind regards,
> > Nuno Brito
> >
> > ---
> > email: [email protected]
> > phone:  +49 615 146 03187
> >
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