Hi Yev,
     I've added it as a topic to be added to the agenda to
the upcoming meetings page.

see:  http://wiki.spdx.org/view/Technical_Team/SPDX_Upcoming_Meetings

We can discuss when it should go in agenda for discussion in today's
meeting.

Kate




On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Yev Bronshteyn <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  As I was going through the best practices for indicating external
> dependencies, I realized that there doesn’t seem to be one for dependencies
> that are known at the package level rather than the file level. A component
> developer trying to make an SPDX document for his offering has three
> methods available for defining external dependencies:
>
>
>    - The artifactOf property on a File. However, this property is
>    file-specific and does not effectively communicate the dependency on a
>    package level. Must a component developer go through each file in his/her
>    project and indicate which external projects it relates to? The artifactOf
>    also does not communicate the exact relationship of a file to the external
>    entity. Is a file a part of the target project? Generated by/from the
>    target project? Something else?
>    - A relationship to the SPDX document describing the target entity.
>    This is the suggested alternative to artifactOf property where the target
>    project has an available SPDX document. However, as most open-source
>    components available today do not have published SPDX documents, the
>    developer appears forced to create and publish his own document for each
>    component the project depends on. This does not appear to be appropriate.
>    - The current package entity seems best suited for describing a
>    dependency, offering supplier, download location, homepage, license
>    information, etc. Additionally, the package can already have an optional
>    “described by” relationship to an external SPDX document if such document
>    exists, while still providing meaningful information when it doesn’t. The
>    problem with this approach is that the current spec mandates that a package
>    have a “package verification code”. If each component developer produces
>    his own verification code for each external package, his choice of excluded
>    or included files may not agree with that of another developer(source vs.
>    built artifacts, including vs. not including dependencies, etc), thus
>    yielding verification codes that don’t verify anything.
>
> So instead, I propose adding an ExternalPackage entity. An
> ExternalPackage would contain only the subset of the Package attributes
> that describe the source and origin of the package. Specifically
>
>    - description
>    - downloadLocation
>    - homepage
>    - licenseDeclared
>    - originator
>    - packageFilename
>    - checksum (of the downloaded package file)
>    - supplier
>    - versionInfo
>    - external system identifiers (if implemented per Bill Schineller’s
>    suggestion at
>    
> http://wiki.spdx.org/view/Technical_Team/Minutes/2015-05-15#External_.2F_Package_Management_systems_identifiers
>    ).
>
>
>  If an SPDX document describing the package is available, it can be
> referenced via the “described by” relationship.
>
>   I’ve documented this proposal on Bugzilla at
> https://bugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1298. I will put it on
> the wiki as soon as I have access to it. :-)
>
>  Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> Yev Bronshteyn
> Senior Software Engineer
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