The modeling requirement is to have a "single source of truth".

1) That implies that that truth must be translatable faithfully and
reliably into multiple implementation formats.
2) #1 implies that there must be algorithms to perform those translations.
3) #2 implies that tooling is used to validate the translation algorithms
and perform the translations

I have been working on an Information Modeling language based on UML and
tools for translating IMs into JSON Schema format, as well as text and
table representations useful for writing standards such as SPDX.
Additional translations, particularly to and from OWL, would demonstrate
feasibility of that approach.  That way either OWL or a UML-based IM could
be used as the single source of truth, and Python code and SPDX documents
in multiple formats (XML, JSON, tag-value) could be generated from it.

I've been thinking about using SPDX as a test case for that approach, but
haven't done much detailed modeling yet. The first section of a paper
describing the approach is available at
https://docs.google.com/document/d/169L5VQDiPVNREbVuVIh03UVX0KMCi-I9Dz6YtI4fhg8,
and a first working draft of JADN, an IM language implementing the
UML-based approach, is available from OASIS at
https://github.com/oasis-tcs/openc2-jadn/blob/working/jadn-v1.0-wd01.md.  A
public review of that WD is coming up; if you'd like to participate in the
review please let me know.

So my recommendation is:
* The single source of truth should capture the datatype constraints
defined by UML
* UML does not have a unique file format, but any file format that can
capture those constraints can be considered as the source (which rules out
things like English prose and Python code - those are derived
representations, not the source.)

Dave


On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:46 PM Alberto Pianon <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've never tried in languages other than python, but I see that JSON
> schemas are supported in most programming languages
>
> Il 2020-12-09 00:41 Nisha Kumar ha scritto:
>
>
>
> Hi Alberto,
>
>
>
> I think specifying conditional keys in the markdown document (XML, RDF,
> JSON, YAML, etc) sounds like a neat idea! Of course, now we end up having
> to implement interpreters for any scheme we come up with.
>
>
>
> -n
>
>
>
> *From: *<[email protected]> on behalf of "Alberto Pianon via
> lists.spdx.org" <[email protected]>
> *Reply-To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 2:32 PM
> *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [spdx-tech] modeling SPDX
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> have you ever considered using JSON schema?
>
> It has some nice features such as conditional dependencies, and you can
> use also an if-then-else syntax, that could be useful to model
> FilesAnalyzed etc.
>
> See some examples here: https://stackoverflow.com/a/38781027
>
> BTW, IANAE so please don't blast me if this suggestion does not make any
> sense from a technical standpoint :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Alberto
>
> Il 2020-12-07 17:24 Alexios Zavras ha scritto:
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> In tomorrow's SPDX Tech call, we said we would discuss how to "model" the
> SPDX information – especially looking towards the next version of the
> specification.
>
> To save us all some time in introductory discussion, I wrote down some
> thoughts about the problem and solutions:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/13PojpaFPdoKZ9Gyh_DEY-Rp7lldyMbSiGE3vCRQhR9M/edit?usp=sharing
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F13PojpaFPdoKZ9Gyh_DEY-Rp7lldyMbSiGE3vCRQhR9M%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Cnishak%40vmware.com%7C4cca0631f353415ecf7908d89bc91fbd%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C1%7C637430635415719677%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DgwLHE1d394ieXU3KsDUkH6ELi9Ejs%2FuoivNIwyn9UU%3D&reserved=0>
>
>
>
> Please read, comment, and edit/update!
>
> Looking forward to our call tomorrow to discuss all this.
>
>
>
> I paste a current snapshot:
>
>
>
> Modeling SPDX
>
> What is the problem?
>
> There are multiple sources for what is defined to be "SPDX". Right now,
> there are:
>
> ·         The specification text
>
> ·         The object model
>
> ·         The reference Java code
>
> ·         Code for Python and Go libraries
>
> All of these are not always consistent...
>
> What do we want?
>
> The ideal outcome would be a "single source of truth". This could
> subsequently be used to automagically generate all the required versions.
>
> What will be modeled?
>
> Based on the current specification, examples of information that should be
> modeled may include:
>
> 1.       FileName is a field in the file information section
>
> 2.       FileName in Tag-Value is Property spdx:fileName in class
> spdx:File in RDF
>
> 3.       FileName value is a string
>
> 4.       FilesAnalyzed is a boolean value
>
> 5.       Created has format YYYY-MM-DDThh:mm:ssZ
>
> 6.       FileName is a mandatory field and can only appear once
>
> 7.       PackageVerificationCode has to appear once if FilesAnalyzed is
> true but must not appear if FilesAnalyzed is false
>
> 8.       ExternalRef has format "category type locator" where category is
> one of SECURITY, PACKAGE-MANAGER, PERSISTENT-ID, OTHER and type is one of
> ...
>
>
>
> What are the alternatives?
>
> We're looking for something to "model" SPDX.
>
> Wikipedia: A data model is an abstract model that organizes elements of
> data and standardizes how they relate to one another and to the properties
> of real-world entities. Related but not equivalent concepts:information
> model, object model.
>
> Unsurprisingly, there are lots of existing modeling frameworks already.
>
> English text
>
> Pure text or not. It should be noted that the current specification is a
> mix of English text, some structure (sections for Cardinality, Format,
> etc.), some computer-like notation (e.g. pseudo-grammar-like constructs),
> some example code, some tables, and probably some more...
>
> OWL
>
> The Web Ontology Language 2 (OWL) is a knowledge representation language
> for authoring ontologies. Ontologies are a formal way to describe
> taxonomies and classification networks, essentially defining the structure
> of knowledge for various domains: the nouns representing classes of objects
> and the verbs representing relations between the objects.
>
> UML
>
> Unified Modeling Language (UML) is a standardized general-purpose modeling
> language in the field of software engineering. It is a graphical language
> for visualizing, specifying, constructing, and documenting the artifacts of
> a software-intensive system. UML offers a mix of functional models, data
> models, and database models. UML has been approved as an ISO standard.
>
> Class definition code
>
> One can also start from actual computer code written in an object-oriented
> way, that implements classes and objects.
>
> Pros and cons
>
> In random order, for now:
>
> ·         UML is widely used and is an ISO standard
>
> ·         UML is a graphical language, so not ideal for git-based team
> collaboration
>
> ·         UML diagrams can be generated by textual descriptions by
> PlantUML
>
> ·         Computer code in any language (Python, Java, ...) is not
> readable by everyone
>
> ·         OWL is not so well known
>
> ·         UML can be edited by Open Source tools
>
> ·         OWL can be edited by Open Source tools
>
> ·         OWL can express a superset of what UML can express
>
> ·         Python is better known than UML or OWL
>
> ·         English is understood by everyone
>
> ·         English natural language text may not be rigorous enough
>
> ·         OWL can combine information from different sources/definitions
> (e.g., URI type)
>
>
>
>
>
> -- zvr
>
>
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