Greeting Jilayne, SPDX Legal and SPDX tech teams,

 

I’ll create a meeting invite early next week to continue the namespace 
discussions.

 

It will be a separate meeting from the tech call since we have quite a bit to 
discuss for 3.0 and I feel we’ve been starving the 3.0 discussions a bit for 
the 2.3 issues over the past couple weeks.

 

I’ll be checking with those most active on the namespace discussion through the 
meetings, emails, and Github issues to find an available time.

 

If this is an important issue for you and you haven’t heard from me, just drop 
me an email (no need to cc the tech and/or legal teams) and I’ll include you on 
the available time poll.

 

Thanks,
Gary

 

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of J 
Lovejoy
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 1:14 PM
To: SPDX-legal <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: list of license related issues

 

Hi SPDX legal and tech teams,

 

Given that the tech team spent most of the Tuesday meeting discussing the 
namespace proposal and we spent the entire legal team doing the same, I’m going 
to simply answer my own question as to priority:

 

Coming to a final proposal for the namespace issue should be the first priority 
for both the legal and tech team for (best case scenario) inclusion in v2.3. 

 

 If the 2.3 inclusion ends up being a first step with later items TBD, then 
there should be a specific plan included owners of when and how those TBD items 
will be addressed. 

 

Given the discussion on this topic has been spread across Github, mailing list, 
and over time and also seems to diverge in terms of what is the problem that is 
trying to solve -  I’m putting together a Google doc to lay out a more 
structured approach and where we can have all comments in one place. Link to 
come later today. 

 

We also probably ought to aim on using the upcoming tech call as a joint call 
with the legal team to discuss, so we don’t delay on this any more. (In the 
future, let’s try to remember to come together for these discussions, rather 
than both teams have separate but similar discussions, as that is not efficient 
use of time.)

 

Can someone create an invite for that to send to the legal team?

 

Everything else on the list below can (and will have to) wait for a later 
release.

 

Thanks,

Jilayne





On May 26, 2022, at 9:16 AM, J Lovejoy <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

 

Hi SPDX legal and tech teams,

I was trying to get my head around any and all issues/PRs/topics that are 
license related. Please let me know if I've missed anything on the list below!

Given the pending 2.3 release, it feels like a bunch of stuff is attempting to 
get shoe-horned into the release, which is not always a good idea.  Also given 
the tech team spent some time discussing the namespace proposal on Tuesday and 
the legal is set to discuss it this morning, I think we ought to prioritize 
what we want to work on for 2.3 versus what can be pushed out to 3.0.  We can't 
do everything and rushing never yields a good result.

I have attempted to make a list below and put in order of priority with my 
thoughts as to why:

1. License namespaces: https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/pull/681
This stems from a proposal from some time ago, and has been waiting to be 
finalized for awhile as well. I fear that we are getting a bit off piste from 
the original proposal (Mark Atwood - can you please weigh in here and re-center 
us!?!) but we should try to prioritize closing this out. 

2. Update Matching Guidelines: (no PR yet, I'm working this in a Google doc 
first)
This is may not be on anyone's radar (and has definitely fallen off the to-do 
list a few time), but they are woefully out-of-date so I'm moving this up to 
visibility and priority! I have begun working on a "draft" of edits in a Google 
doc, to then turn into a PR. Will share soon.

3. Snippets and SPDX-License-Identifier tags: 
https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/pull/464
This seems like something that may be better discussed in the context of 3.0 ?

4. Adding NONE to the License Expression syntax: 
https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec
This has been around for awhile. Given NONE and NOASSERTION are already defined 
(if people would read said definitions...) in the Spec, I see this as a 
potentially simply lift and move in terms of where they "live". That being 
said, it's still a fair amoutn of work ensuring the wording in several places 
is right. It also opens up the pandora's box in that the Annex for license 
expressions is in need of an overall update. For these reasons, this seems like 
something better suited to be coupled with that effort.  That's my gut at this 
point.

5. Add profile for multiple SPDX files with short licensing/copyright info: 
https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/issues/502
This seems like a lighter version of what will be the licensing profile in 3.0. 
As such, maybe we should expend our energy on 3.0 and the profiles, see where 
that ends up. And then go back to this?

6. Specify which licenses are compatible with the "+" operator: 
https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/issues/689#issuecomment-1135966938
Admittedly, I have not read through this yet, but from the title alone it may 
even be a non-issue, so putting it at bottom of list


Thanks,
Jilayne

 





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