Hi Steve,

 

I'm going to include the SPDX tech group on the email thread - sorry to many
of you for the duplication.

 

Steve - If you're a member of that email we can continue the thread there.

 

There is a Build Profile working group which is tackling very similar
problems for the SPDX 3.0 spec led by Brandon and Nisha (cc'd) - you may
want to connect with that group.

 

For SPDX 2.3, I have a couple of thoughts and suggestions.  I think the
Creation Information created date will provide the information on when the
SBOM was created.  We don't have any fields at the SPDX Document level to
store and retrieve the build phase information, but we have added 3 new
fields at the package level which may be useful:

*       Built Date
<https://spdx.github.io/spdx-spec/v2.3/package-information/#726-built-date> 
*       Release Date
<https://spdx.github.io/spdx-spec/v2.3/package-information/#725-release-date
> 
*       Valid Until Date
<https://spdx.github.io/spdx-spec/v2.3/package-information/#727-valid-until-
date> 

 

For a typical SBOM, the SPDX document will have a Document Describes which
points to the package the SBOM is describing.  Although it isn't direct, you
could use the Built Date and Release Date along with the Creation
information to determine where in the lifecycle the SBOM was created.  Since
these are optional fields, the Telco SIG would need to specify that they be
included for the package in the Document Describes field.

 

Using the comment field for information not in the SPDX spec is an
acceptable practice - especially if the information is intended to be human
readable.  You can also use an Annotation on the SPDX document for the same
purpose.  The advantage of the Annotation is you can have more than one with
each Annotation having a specific purpose.  For example, you could have an
Annotation "Build-Phase: pre-build" and an separate annotation for unrelated
information.

 

 

Best regards,

Gary

 

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Kilbane
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 3:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [spdx] SPDX creation phase

 

Hi all,

 

One of the suggestions in today's call for the OpenChain Telco SIG, where
we're discussing proposals for an SBOM standard for the Telecommunications
industry, was:

 

> SBOMs conforming to the Telco SBOM Specification need to contain the
information when the SBOM was created in the "Created" SPDX field and at
what phase of the software build it was created ("pre-build", "build-time"
or "post-build") in the CreatorComment SPDX field.

 

(See https://github.com/OpenChain-Project/Telco-WG/pull/15)

 

I raised a concern about ambiguity here, in that your application may be
built from libraries that are built at an earlier stage, so the SBOM
information may be created after some components are built, but before
others. A recipient of the SBOM might also interpret each of these three
phrases differently from the creator of the SBOM. I recall hearing that
there have been conversations about many different SBOMs according to phase
(source SBOM, build SBOM, deploy SBOM, cloud SBOM, etc.), so I wondered
whether there was advice that the Telco SIG could lean upon, rather than
trying to formulate a solution when it's already a solved problem.

 

Apologies if this isn't the right group.

 

steve

 





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