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General Meeting/Minutes/2017-03-02
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  *   Attendance: 11
  *   Lead by Phil Odence
  *   Minutes of Feb meeting approved

Contents
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  *   1 Special Presentation- Mark Charlebois / Rashmi Chitrakar, 
Qualcomm<http://wiki.spdx.org/view/General_Meeting/Minutes/2017-03-02#Special_Presentation-_Mark_Charlebois_.2F_Rashmi_Chitrakar.2C_Qualcomm>
  *   2 Tech Team Report - 
Kate<http://wiki.spdx.org/view/General_Meeting/Minutes/2017-03-02#Tech_Team_Report_-_Kate>
  *   3 Outreach Team Report - 
Jack<http://wiki.spdx.org/view/General_Meeting/Minutes/2017-03-02#Outreach_Team_Report_-_Jack>
  *   4 Legal Team Report - 
Jilayne/Paul<http://wiki.spdx.org/view/General_Meeting/Minutes/2017-03-02#Legal_Team_Report_-_Jilayne.2FPaul>
  *   5 
Attendees<http://wiki.spdx.org/view/General_Meeting/Minutes/2017-03-02#Attendees>
Special Presentation- Mark Charlebois / Rashmi Chitrakar, 
Qualcomm[edit<http://wiki.spdx.org/index.php?title=General_Meeting/Minutes/2017-03-02&action=edit&section=1>]

  *   Mark from corp R&D, Rashmi from the open source group
  *   Mark works on Dronecode
     *   Goal is to build with Yocto
     *   Want to provide good license info
     *   At the outset Yocto build only supported SPDX 1.0 and uses FOSSology 
for scanning
        *   Yocto is a distribution that comes with recipes for custom builds
     *   Motivation
        *   reducing scan times was key
        *   FOSSology was taking as much as 6 days
        *   Introducing LiD to address
  *   (Deck is available)
  *   Yocto
     *   has a number of build stages
     *   current integration was inserted after patch stage to only scan what’s 
patched
     *   but that doesn’t allow for reusability
     *   So, the approach was to scan upstream sources and focus scan on only 
patches
     *   Uses Yocto archiver
  *   FOSSology integration
     *   Mark was not able to even get it going
     *   Old, did not seem well maintained
  *   New integration
     *   Implements approach to
     *   Leverage newer SPDX capabilities
        *   Relationships between files
        *   Usage info (e.g. dynamic library)
     *   Allows for parallelizing across machines
     *   Can flag discrepancies (e.g. two different licenses declared)
     *   Goal
        *   create a federated commons of pre-scanned code
        *   so, everyone’s work is cut by, say, 90% (as they only need to scan 
their customer 10%)
  *   LiD
     *   Main Features of Scanners
        *   They have access to FOSSology tools (Nomos, Monk)
        *   Evaluated using Qualcomm code for testing
        *   Nomos was pretty good at detecting license language (94%)
        *   Monk, only about 25%
        *   Used SPDX license list as source for license matching
     *   Goal
        *   Aiding in license compliance
        *   Hope was to generate SPDX
  *   Main functions
     *   Scans source code to ID license language
     *   Natural Language Process “Bag of words” approach
     *   Jakarta index shows how well it matches
     *   Levenstein measures to determine where to start/end
     *   Output- color coded matches (and deviations)
     *   Matched about as well as Noms
     *   Accuracy
        *   Right license
        *   Right region
     *   Better than Nomos at extracting full text; Monk really fell short
     *   Can be tuned
        *   Based on LiD Scores (1-perfect)
           *   Scores of above .6 were pretty good, but user can adjust
        *   Nomos, being REGEX based is very computationally expensive.
  *   Will be available on GitHub
     *   But available already

  *   Q&A
     *   What’s going on with Debian?
     *   It’s being tested on Debian, not a lot of feedback yet

Tech Team Report - 
Kate[edit<http://wiki.spdx.org/index.php?title=General_Meeting/Minutes/2017-03-02&action=edit&section=2>]

  *   Spec
     *   Have been working on reference examples
        *   Filling in how to do examples
     *   Spec being converted to docbooks for style
        *   Mobile-friendly
     *   Getting the spec up on GitHub so changes can be tracked, pull 
requests, etc
        *   Eventually we’ll move there from Bugzilla for issue tracking
     *   FacetoFace in Tahoe
        *   Jilayne did a great presentation that is available as video, Kate’s 
as well
        *   JSON format discussion
  *   Tools
     *   Talked through plans at Face to Face

Outreach Team Report - 
Jack[edit<http://wiki.spdx.org/index.php?title=General_Meeting/Minutes/2017-03-02&action=edit&section=3>]

  *   Accepted for Google Summer of Code
     *   Starting to get interest
  *   Short meeting last week
     *   Talked about feedback from Matt’s project surveying companies
     *   Need to decide if we will do a survey
     *   Jack says we really need to look at the Ecosystem
        *   Define user types and what to tell them they should do
        *   Need to paint a picture of what success is with SPDX
        *   Some feedback from site “I’m a developer, what do I do?”
  *   Considering whether we need someone on the outreach team who is more OSS 
community-focused
     *   Perhaps looking at “SPDX lite” (wrong word) sort of approach, and easy 
way to get started

Legal Team Report - 
Jilayne/Paul[edit<http://wiki.spdx.org/index.php?title=General_Meeting/Minutes/2017-03-02&action=edit&section=4>]

  *   Good meetings at Tahoe
     *   2 hour working session
        *   Action plan for XML conversion
        *   How to completely connect the dots and organize upcoming task
  *   Today’s call will follow up
  *   Brad Edmondson developing deck and presenting to ABA group

Attendees[edit<http://wiki.spdx.org/index.php?title=General_Meeting/Minutes/2017-03-02&action=edit&section=5>]

  *   Mark Charlebois, Qualcomm
  *   Rashmi Chitrakar, Qualcomm
  *   Phil Odence, Black Duck
  *   Kate Stewart, Linux Foundation
  *   Philippe Ombrédanne- nexB
  *   Paul Madick, Dimension Data
  *   Jilayne Lovejoy, ARM
  *   Jack Manbeck, TI
  *   Michael Herzog- nexB
  *   Mark Gisi, Wind River
  *   Thomas Steenbergen, HERE

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