Spike and David,

I think this has to do with the upgrade procedure.
I have verified that it works fine w/ a clean install on NT and Win2k -
right now I'm debugging the upgrade to see where it's hosing things up.

- peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:54 AM
To: Spectra-Talk
Subject: RE: Spectra and cf 5.0 beta 3


Yes,

Machine config is:
Win2k Adv Server
CF 5.0 beta 3
Spectra 1.5

CF 5.0 was just installed over the top of 4.52.
Spectra was not reinstalled after 5.0.

spike

At 00:34 05/04/2001 Thursday, you wrote:
>Spike,
>
>Are you running win2k as well?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:10 PM
>To: Spectra-Talk
>Subject: RE: Spectra and cf 5.0 beta 3
>
>
>For me the code below always returns
>
>isAuthenticated('sc1'): NO
>isAuthenticated('sc1'): YES
>
>
>Code:
>
><CFOUTPUT>
>isAuthenticated(): #IsAuthenticated('sc1')#<BR>
>
><CFAUTHENTICATE PASSWORD="siteminder" USERNAME="admin"
>SECURITYCONTEXT="sc1" SETCOOKIE="Yes">
>
>isAuthenticated(): #IsAuthenticated('sc1')#<BR>
><BR>
>
></CFOUTPUT>
>
>At 18:40 03/04/2001 Tuesday, you wrote:
> >David and Spike,
> >
> >I am not able to recreate the authentication issue.
> >Here is the code I'm running.
> >
> ><cfset authenticated = isAuthenticated('sc1')>
> ><cfoutput>authenticated:#authenticated#</cfoutput><br>
> >
> ><cfauthenticate
> >    securitycontext="sc1"
> >    username="admin"
> >    password="admin">
> >
> ><cfset authenticated = isAuthenticated('sc1')>
> ><cfoutput>authenticated:#authenticated#</cfoutput>
> >
> >
> >1st run it shows:
> >authenticated:NO
> >authenticated:YES
> >
> >2nd run and subsequent runs:
> >authenticated:YES
> >authenticated:YES
> >
> >
> >You can try out the Flush mechanism in the CF 5.0 admin to clear this out
> >and start fresh.  The authentication cache is always on, so even if you
> >delete the cookie the user will still authenticate until you flush the
>cache
> >from the admin.
> >
> >Let me know what you guys are seeing....
> >
> >- peter
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 7:09 AM
> >To: Spectra-Talk
> >Subject: RE: Spectra and cf 5.0 beta 3
> >
> >
> >David,
> >
> >Can you post the strings you used from the 4.5 install.
> >
> >I tried playing around with this a bit with no success.
> >
> >There seemed to be quite a few extra ones in the interface for 5.0.
> >
> >I am also finding the same problem with the authentication cookie.
> >
> >You can, of course create your own encrypted cookie containing security
> >context, username and password and put a cfauthenticate tag at the top of
> >the application.cfm and pass the decrypted values in as attributes.
> >
> >It's an awful hack, but it works.
> >
> >The problem I am hitting now is that the cfa_userget tag expects the old
> >userdirectory structure with username and groupname as fields. So if you
> >could post the strings you used I should be able to use the old
> >userdirectory and have a fully working webtop.
> >
> >spike
> >
> >At 23:23 02/04/2001 Monday, you wrote:
> > >Peter -
> > >
> > >Is the reason you need to use SmSampleUsers.mdb instead of Spectra's
> > >UserDirectory.mdb because of the SQL queries associated with the UD for
> > >InitUser, GetUserProp, etc  (all of the stuff at the bottom of the
page)?
> > >
> > >I updated this on my userdirectory definition with the appropriate
>strings
> > >from the SmDsQuery.ini file from a 4.5 installation, and I was able to
>get
> > >the userdirectory.mdb database to work.
> > >
> > >Still haven't worked out the cookie/authentication issues, though.
> > >
> > >-- David
> > >
> > >At 05:06 PM 4/2/2001 Monday, you wrote:
> > > >David, Spike & All,
> > > >
> > > >I've been working on Spectra 1.5 and CF 5.0 compatibility.
> > > >We have new Netegrity Siteminder (v 4.11) bits w/ cf 5.0 -so there
are
>a
> >few
> > > >issues to work out.
> > > >
> > > >I was able to get Spectra 1.5 up and running w/ Beta 2 on Solaris
>without
> >to
> > > >much effort.
> > > >(*Advanced Security was not available for NT)
> > > >
> > > >With NT we've been running into some issues w/ ODBC policy store
> >migrations
> > > >(*see beta 3 release notes for details)
> > > >and also with ODBC userdirectories (I'm currently debugging this
one).
> > > >Something with the default spectra user directory is causing the
> >problems.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >To get around this and get the webtop up do the following:
> > > >(*** obviously a hack - we are working to resolve the issues)
> > > >
> > > >BASICALLY WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS POINT "UserDirectory" TO ANOTHER
>ACCESS
> > > >DATABASE:
> > > >
> > > >1. Go into the cfadmin/ advanced security and turn off all caches -
>then
> > > >click "apply changes"
> > > >
> > > >2. under "Flush ColdFusion and Security Server Caches" click "purge
>all".
> > > >     (** This is a cool enhancement for cf 5.0 that saves you from
>having
> >to
> > > >cycle the services while debugging)
> > > >
> > > >3. click on user directories and select UserDirectory
> > > >
> > > >4. change the location from UserDirectory to smsampleusers and click
> >apply
> > > >    (**  this is the test .mdb user directory that ships w/ CF -
should
> >be
> > > >listed under ODBC datasources)
> > > >
> > > >5. Change the URL of the config wizard to:
> > > >    http://127.0.0.1/allaire/spectra/install/index.cfm?step=5
> > > >
> > > >6. select "Launch the Allaire Spectra Webtop"
> > > >
> > > >7. login with username=admin password=siteminder
> > > >    *** you can modify the admin username and password by going
>directly
> >to
> > > >the Access database located at:
> > > >    C:\cfusion\database\smsampleusers.mdb  - just modify the smuser
> >table.
> > > >
> > > >This will skip all of the UserDirectory specific steps and allow you
to
> > > >login to the webtop.
> > > >The configuration wizard is being updated for compatibility w/ CF 5.0
>and
> >I
> > > >will post any fixes to this thread going forward.
> > > >
> > > >Also note that the Spectra collections creation step will be skipped.
>We
> > > >are also working with new verity binaries and need to resolve a few
> >issues.
> > > >
> > > >regards,
> > > >peter watson
> > > >cf & spectra qa
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: David An [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 4:00 PM
> > > >To: Spectra-Talk
> > > >Subject: RE: Spectra and cf 5.0 beta 3
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi Spike -
> > > >
> > > >I'm having the same problems :)
> > > >
> > > >I've got it narrowed down to the
IsAuthenticated()/AuthenticatedUser()
> > > >functions.
> > > >
> > > >Try this on a CF4.5/Spectra 1.5 box ...
> > > >#IsAuthenticated()#
> > > ><cfa_authenticate ... (stuff) >
> > > >#IsAuthenticated()#
> > > >
> > > >load the page twice ... you'll see that the second load,
>IsAuthenticated
> > > >returns true even before you've cfa_authenticated ... it's reading
that
> > > >from the cfauth cookie (right?)
> > > >
> > > >Then try the same code on CF5.0b3/Spectra 1.5 ... you never return
true
> > > >based on your cookie.  Thus, the whole cfa_secure tag is hosed and
you
> > > >can't get anywhere in the webtop.
> > > >
> > > >-- David
> > > >
> > > >At 09:21 PM 4/2/2001 Monday, you wrote:
> > > > >At 21:14 02/04/2001 Monday, you wrote:
> > > > > >Did you install Spectra _after_ CF 5 b3?
> > > > >
> > > > >Nope...
> > > > >
> > > > >Am I a stoopid person for not reading the manual?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >Go into your advanced security settings and double check that SC1
>is
> > > >using
> > > > > >"UserDirectory" as the user directory.
> > > > > >Go to ODBC and confirm UserDirectory points to the mdb file
Spectra
> > > > > >installs.
> > > > > >Open the MDB file and confirm your username/password are in
there.
> > > > >
> > > > >I've done all of these things and everything checks out fine.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >=======================================================================
> > > > > >Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for
>Macromedia
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Email   : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >ICQ UIN : 3679482
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:01 PM
> > > > > > > To: Spectra-Talk
> > > > > > > Subject: Spectra and cf 5.0 beta 3
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Has anyone managed to get Spectra working on Beta3?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have been mucking around with it all day and have got the
> >security
> > > > > > > context working fine, but the webtop says that the username
and
> > > >password
> > > > > > > I'm using doesn't correspond with a valid user.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm using Spectra 1.5 on Win2k with an odbc database as the
user
> > > > > > > directory.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Spike
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Stephen Milligan
> > > > > > > Internet Developer and Allaire training guru
> > > > > > > Tel: +34 686 021171
> > > > > > > ICQ: 15831735
> > > > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > "A good developer is the type of person who looks both ways on
>an
> >one
> > > >way
> > > > > > > street!"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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