Christian

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this.

First of all I must say that I honestly thought that there already was
implemented some alarm sync between the SpectroServers. But now I know that
the alarms I see on the secondary SS is merely faults detected from that SS
through traps and polling, and not because a sync with the primary. Hence
the alarms on the secondary do of course have "wrong" date and time etc.

Regarding OneClick I have been thinking about setting up the same solution
as you are describing.
We are also running Spectrum in a virtual environment (Vsphere4) so we have
hardware redundancy with HA. So the redundancy is pretty good considering
that Spectrum is a fairly stable application.

Regards
Sturla



On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Christian Fieres <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> I hope this hasn't been a hoax. But I remember clearly having seen this on
> the official SPETRUM roadmap presented by Kathy Hickey at a user meeting in
> Cologne. Mysteriuosly enough, I don't think it is too difficult to implement
> such a key feature - alarms are stored in the SSdb; it shouldn't be too hard
> to periodically sync a part of this database to a hot-standby instance (that
> is really running and not waiting for the primary to get lost and THEN start
> the local database!). We are also looking forward to having this, since a
> real redundancy is not just gapless monitoring from my point of view.
> Especially having a Netcool-like system on top, we've been experiencing very
> strange behaviours in cases of SS failovers, from total alarm loss to double
> alarms being shown on the non-SPECTRUM-console.
>
> As far as OneClick is concerned, docs talk about a load balancer based FT
> environment - which is no option for us ;-) I've built two identical servers
> that sync their customized xml files as well as PCause and Event-Files at
> night, so that each user can connect to the so-called "backup machine" when
> our primary OC server is in maintenance with the benefit of having to
> customize only one machine, not two. One might also think of a round robin
> DNS RR that points to two physical machines alternatingly. What I don't know
> is whether OC's Tomcat can deal with the machine's hostname and the hostname
> provided in the URL being different.
>
> What confused me though was that you wrote you have the same alarms on the
> secondary SS in case of a switchover. Did you mean you have identical alarms
> on primary and secondary SS, i.e. also in terms of date and time etc.?
>
> Freundliche Grüße / Best regards
>
> Christian Fieres
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> Re: [spectrum] Antwort: Re: [spectrum] Landscape problems when using Fault
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>
>
> Amazing that this is not implemented already! I'm also surprised that there
> is no solution for FT standalone OneClick server.
>
> Sturla
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Christian Fieres 
> <*[email protected]*<[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
> Alarm Sync is not yet implemented. All servers hold and generate their own
> alarms, resulting in an Ack, Status and Troubleshooter loss when FT failover
> occurs, not to mention unrealistic alarm creation date and time. Either
> implement a tool on top that handles that (some event correlation solution
> like Netcool etc.) or wait for 9.2 that is said to be scheduled around May
> or June this year. I've been told that an FT alarm sync feature will be
> implemented in this version. Something we've been waiting for since the
> 1990's!
>
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>
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> Re: [spectrum] Landscape problems when using Fault Tolerance(FT) on
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>
>
> Vynita,
>
> Are you running H09? I'm experiencing the same problems and I'm running 9.1
> H09.
> Have you tried to adjust the SpectroServer polling interval in the OneClick
> Administration page?
>
>
> Besides the problem mentioned I also have another issue related to FT. When
> failing over from primary SS I still have the same alarms on the secondary
> SS, but the alarms lose their Trouble Ticket Id, and acknowledge
> information.
>
> Anyone else experiencing this?
>
>
> Regards
>
> Sturla
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Pretorius, Vynita 
> <*[email protected]*<[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
> HI All
>
>
>
> Awhile back there was a conversation going on about a corba app dying and
> the FT system never takes over.
>
>
>
> My issue is that my landscape does not respond, then the global alarms do
> not respond after which it tries the FT system. It then proceed to swop back
> and forth between the FT and primary servers. At this time oneclick is
> unavailable you cannot logon as it says that there is no spectroserver
> available.
>
>
>
> What causes the landscape to not respond? And how do I resolve this.
>
> When in this state I reboot both spectrum server.
>
>
>
> *Thanks*
>
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