On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Brett Cannon <br...@python.org> wrote:
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> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski <fij...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Brett Cannon <br...@python.org> wrote:
>> > Quick question about the hexiom2 benchmark: what does it measure? It is
>> > by
>> > far the slowest benchmark I ported, and considering it isn't a
>> > real-world
>> > app benchmark I want to make sure the slowness of it is worth it.
>> > Otherwise
>> > I would rather drop it since having something run 1/25 as many
>> > iterations
>> > compared to the other simple benchmarks seems to water down its
>> > robustness.
>>
>> It's a puzzle solver. It got included because PyPy 1.9 got slower than
>> 1.8 on this particular benchmark that people were actually running
>> somewhere, so it has *some* value.
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>
> Fair enough. Just wanted to make sure that it was worth having a slow
> execution over.
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>>
>> I wonder, does adding a fixed
>> random number seed help the distribution?
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> Fix how? hexiom2 doesn't use a random value for anything.

Ok, then please explain why having 1/25th of iterations kill robustness?

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> -Brett
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>> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski <fij...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Brett Cannon <br...@python.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > So I managed to get the following benchmarks moved into the unladen
>> >> > repo
>> >> > (not pushed yet until I figure out some reasonable scaling values as
>> >> > some
>> >> > finish probably too fast and others go for a while):
>> >> >
>> >> > chaos
>> >> > fannkuch
>> >> > meteor-contest (renamed meteor_contest)
>> >> > spectral-norm (renamed spectral_norm)
>> >> > telco
>> >> > bm_mako (renamed bm_mako_v2; also pulled in mako 0.9.7 for this
>> >> > benchmark)
>> >> > go
>> >> > hexiom2
>> >> > json_bench (renamed json_dump_v2)
>> >> > raytrace_simple (renamed raytrace)
>> >> >
>> >> > Most of the porting was range/xrange related. After that is was
>> >> > str/unicode.
>> >> > I also stopped having the benchmarks write out files as it was always
>> >> > to
>> >> > verify results and not a core part of the benchmark.
>> >> >
>> >> > That leaves us with the benchmarks that rely on third-party projects.
>> >> > The
>> >> > chameleon benchmark can probably be ported as chameleon has a version
>> >> > released running on Python 3. But django and html5lib have only
>> >> > in-development versions that support Python 3. If we want to pull in
>> >> > the
>> >> > tip
>> >> > of their repos then those benchmarks can also be ported now rather
>> >> > than
>> >> > later. People have opinions on in-dev code vs. released for
>> >> > benchmarking?
>> >> >
>> >> > There is also the sphinx benchmark, but that requires getting
>> >> > CPython's
>> >> > docs
>> >> > building under Python 3 (see http://bugs.python.org/issue10224).
>> >> >
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