Hi All,
I can do the 2 longest ones (in my mind) pretty fast is my cube 
doesn't lock up, but the whle step is still pretty slow for me. I 
have tried reading the other 2 methods (I currently use #2), but I 
have had no luck at learning them. Perhaps I am missing something? 
I'll go back and read them again this weekend and hopefully make some 
sense of them. 

I also have a few more plans for the weekend: Solve 2 3x3x3's 
blindfolded and also start learing CLL which I have put off for so 
long. I figure having a long holiday break was a good time to 
start. :) Wish me luck!

Peter Greenwood


--- In [email protected], "Mike Bennett" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's great that more people are beginning to take an interest in the
> Roux method.  It's got so much potential, it just doesn't seem 
widely
> known, yet.
> 
> I've recently begun learning ZBF2L intuitively (for the most part) 
in
> an effort to better my times.  I only really have 3 or so cases down
> for sure, but it really works wonders for your times.  I've also
> recently finished learning the rest of COLL, which is a fantastic
> system.  My normal average is now between 20 and 21, with my best
> times in the 14's.  I recognize the cases the same way as on Gilles
> Roux's site, so hopefully my advice will apply to you guys some.
> 
> I decided to take a few days off from ZB learning and devote time to
> the Roux method. And despite not really working on it in months,
> earlier today I averaged 20.11 (so close! XP) with a new best time 
of
> 15.67.  I'm still using the second method for orienting and placing
> the final edges, and I haven't learned any of the special shortened
> cases.  Also, there's really only one case where I use a CLL instead
> of the COLL, just because that's what I know.  Anyway, here are the
> tips I've got.
> 
> For the 1x2x3 blocks:  GO SLOWLY.  Especially at first.  It's easy 
to
> get a good pace going for the first block with inspection and forget
> to slow down for the second.  It's important.  Work at it.
> 
> Also, try to have several tricks for doing each block.  Know how to
> match a corner and edge and insert.  Know how to insert an edge in 
any
> of the three spots on each block, and know how to use block starts
> like in the Petrus method.
> 
> For the corners: Don't learn them in the order on the Roux site. 
> Learn the T and U and L cases first.  There are 5+1 reflection for 
the
> first two, and 4+2 reflections for the last.  I think this covers 
the
> bulk of cases you run into.  After that, it's up to you, but it will
> be smoother sailing because you're more used to it.
> 
> Also, try to use everything you've learned all the time during
> solving.  Even the things you've only learned an hour before.  Don't
> worry about how long it takes you to remember the alg.  Just do it. 
> The more you force yourself to actively use them, the better you 
will
> get at them.  Practice.
> 
> The final six edges is a very important step.  Learn the algs to
> orient the cases as well as you possibly can.  They should be second
> nature.  You need to be able to perform the ones for the longest 
cases
>  (all edges oriented wrong) in under 3 seconds. Also, work on 
finding
> good ways to place the UR and UL edges as you're finishing orienting
> so that it becomes one fluid step.  This may take a while (it was 
the
> hardest part for me).
> 
> After you've got all this down, move on to the third method for
> recognizing the last six edges, and learn the special cases.  There
> are only 26 or so, so it shouldn't be too bad.  But sub 20 is
> definitely possible without them, so don't give up.
> 
> -Mike
> team [zb]
> 
> P.S. Wow.  That's a long post.  Oops...
>






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