--- In [email protected], "Stefan Pochmann"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "thomkirjava" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > You should look at this baby.
> > 
> > http://rubikscube.info/lastsix2look.html
> 
> Ok, now the obvious question: How does it compare to Gilles's way?
> 
> Both ways first orient all six edges and place the LU and RU edges, 
> but they place them at different places.
> 
> Do we know average number of moves for these two methods?
> 


Josef's sequences should give you better results.

Various ideas about the last 6 edges and 4 centers:
- If you want to solve in less than 12 moves (using sequences mostly
based on <M, U>), it's extremely difficult (impossible?).
- With many methods you can average about 15 moves.
- Josef wanted a 2-look method. In my opinion, it's not quite 2-look,
because you need to position UL/UR first.
- There's another possibility: Use standard corner-first strategy that
inserts the last L/R-edge and orients M-edges, but without taking care
of corners positions, and look where you are before the last M/M' move
(you're in the middle of UL/UR insertion after orientation).
- After orientation or with Josef's technique, instead of solving
UL/UR, you can work with UF/UB. Mmmhh.. no. You could save 2 moves,
but it makes recognition much more difficult.
- With the orientation-first strategy (averaging about 14 moves),
inspection does not take more than 2.3 microseconds. Very few things
to learn, and you can solve very efficently >70% of cases. Add the
standard corners-first technique, a few optimizations, and you reach 90%.

Gilles.






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