Hi Jasmine !

As you can see the t-shirt has no text at all. The text u can see is 
just added to the picture after the picture was shot ;-)

Haha ... i get ur point though. It would have been a great t-shirt 
yes. But what about the remaining 1000 kinds of people ?? :-P

Have fun!

-Per

> --- In [email protected], "Jasmine Lee" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This discussion reminds me of a t-shirt I saw on thinkgeek.com:
> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/5aa9/zoom/
> 
> Wouldn't this have been a good t-shirt for a certain cuber to wear 
on
> Beauty and the Geek? ;)
> 
> Jasmine
> http://speedcuber.blogspot.com
> 
> 
> On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 23:26:29 -0000, "Stefan Pochmann" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
> > 
> > Hi Per,
> > no, the point is that a number and a representation of a number
> > are
> > not the same. You can't even write down or tell me a number - at
> > all!
> > Only a representation of the number you mean. For example, you
> > write
> > "10 seconds" and I can only *assume* that you mean "ten
> > seconds", but
> > maybe you're talking binary and mean "two seconds"? The
> > *representation* of a number can look "round", never the number
> > itself. Firstly because it doesn't look at all, and secondly
> > because
> > in different representations it can look differently. In some of
> > them
> > it might look "round", in others not. Got it now? Distinguish
> > between
> > numbers and their representations, that's all.
> > Cheers!
> > Stefan
> > P.S. Even saying "two" or "ten" is not much better than "2" or
> > "10",
> > since maybe the word "two" means a different number for you than
> > it
> > does for me. Or if you're a weird alien from Mars and use the
> > same
> > notation as we humans but with the digit symbols '0' and '7'
> > swapped,
> > then "3.00" will not look round for you because it'll look to
> > you like
> > "3.77" looks to us which we wouldn't call "round".
> > --- In [email protected], "Per Kristen
> > Fredlund"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Stefan !
> > >
> > > Im trying to understand ur way of thinking but i think u are
> > > seriously mistaken. If u talk about rounding off errors that's
> > > another matter. The concept of integers is well founded in
> > maths and
> > > in reality. U can indeed have exactly 10 stones or 42 apples
> > or
> > > whatever. Measuring 10 seconds (10.00) on a computer won't
> > mean that
> > > we know that there are infinitely many 0's after the comma.
> > But
> > > noone says it does mean so either ;-) It is just the human
> > mind that
> > > wants to simplify and say: hey 10.00 that's *exactly* 10 (the
> > > natural number 10). Oh well, this has nothing whatsoever to do
> > with
> > > cubing ;-)
> > >
> > > Sorry guys ... (+ guyesses)
> > >
> > > -Per
> > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Stefan
> > Pochmann"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Bob Burton"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Round numbers are just there to bother you.
> > > >
> > > > The whole concept of "round numbers" is flawed already, in
> > my
> > > opinion
> > > > these don't even exist. For example, you might consider
> > "10.00" to
> > > be
> > > > a round number, but that's not really the number, only one
> > out of
> > > > infinitely many representations of it. In binary it would
> > already
> > > look
> > > > like "1010" and just imagine what happens if you take for
> > example
> > > Pi
> > > > as base. Or the representation where you'd write
> > "XXXXXXXXXX",
> > > which
> > > > doesn't look any rounder than "XXXXXXXXX". Or... etc. Not
> > even 0
> > > > (zero), which looks the same and "round" in many used
> > > representations,
> > > > looks like a round number anymore when I represent numbers
> > by
> > > writing
> > > > them the "normal" way after subtracting 42.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > > Stefan
> > > >
> > >
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