--- In [email protected], "kovacic81" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is a good Avg for Last Layer? > I took an avg today for step 4 of Gilles MEthod. I haven't cubed a > lot this week, but I did pretty well. > > (2.98), 3.39, 4.98, 5.78, 7.48, 6.58, 6.67, 3.53, 7.50, 5.34, (12.18), > 7.48 Step 4 Avg 5.87 sec Did you account for recognition in this average? If so, how did you do so? How did you time yourself, also? > > This step is kind of like OLL/PLL. First you Orient 6 edges, then > Permute 6 edges. Step 4 averages only 15 moves, but there are a lot > of slice moves. If you can avg 3 moves a sec, you can do step 4 in > about 5 seconds. But in OLL you orient EIGHT pieces and then in PLL you permute EIGHT pieces, so it seems to me you are doing 33% more work, right? Wouldn't that make Step 4 a little less equivalent to OLL/PLL? Even if you took a CLL -> ELL approach (which is equivalent to OLL/PLL in number of moves and in speed), then in the first step you are orienting AND permuting 4 pieces and then doing the same in the second step. It seems to me that no matter what, the last 6 edges should be faster than OLL/PLL. > CFOP > Cross - 7 moves > CE Pair - 7 moves > CE Pair - 7 moves > CE Pair - 7 moves > CE Pair - 7 moves > OLL - ? > PLL - ? Well, that's not really fair. The average F2L is approximately 30 moves for a good speedcuber. I think my average for F2L may actually be around 28-29 moves. The cross average should only be 6, but who doesn't use open slots, especially for the first couple pairs? I think 30 moves is a much more accurate representation. OLL averages are about 9 moves and PLL I believe is about 14 moves. That makes for approximately 51-53 moves for CFOP. > ROUX > B1 - 9 moves > B2 - 16 moves (2 for DR edge and 7 for each CE pair) > CLL - ? > Step 4 - 15 moves I think CLL is about 9 moves on average. This makes a total of about 49 or so moves. > So F2L is about 35 moves (11.67 sec at 3 moves/sec) > and F2B is about 25 moves (8.33 sec at 3 moves/sec)(10 sec at 2.5 > moves/sec) Again, I think 35 moves for F2L average is way too high. > Step 4 is about 15 moves (5 sec at 3 moves/sec)(6 sec at 2.5 moves/sec) > > I think due to slice moves it's hard to do 3 moves/sec for Step 4, so > 2.5 moves/sec is a better estimate. > Todays avg of 5.87sec would be 2.56 moves/sec. > What are the HTM averages for OLL and PLL? I believe 9 and 14 moves (approximately). > WHat about COLL and CLL? CLL must be less.. CLL should be around 9 moves and COLL probably around 12 or so. > And What is a good Last Layer Time Average? That depends on what you consider good. I think some of the faster guys have a LL around 4-5 seconds. I belive mine is about 5-6 seconds, slightly faster on a good day. When I set my sub-20 average, my F2L average was about 15 seconds, so I probably cut a bit of time off at the F2L and had a really good LL. My fastest time was 13.34, but I doubt I've ever had a sub-10 F2L solve. ;) ~ Bob ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/MXMplB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
