I guess Fewest Moves is indeed a puzzle too.  And any creation of new 
algorithms.  I'm not sure what I'd say Speedsolving is.  Not a puzzle, 
probably a sport in the same way that chess is.

Duncan



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From: "Tyson Mao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Rubik's cube the 'puzzle'


> The way we solve the cube, it's not a puzzle.  The Rubik's Cube, when
> solved without being taught, is indeed a puzzle.  The fact that the
> Rubik's Cube has 12 additional orientation combinations for the centers
> (did I get that number right) is pretty trivial.  If they want to
> define puzzle that way, fine, we just draw some arrows.
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> If anything, I think just citing the number of Rubik's Cube
> competitions compared to Sudoku competitions, and I think we can rest
> our case.
>
> Tyson Mao
> MSC #631
> California Institute of Technology
>
> On Jan 5, 2006, at 1:21 AM, Jasmine Lee wrote:
>
>> Today a friend showed me a passage in her Sudoku book which claimed
>> that
>> the Rubik's Cube is NOT a puzzle. Their claim is that anything which
>> has
>> more than one solved state is not a puzzle. Their reason is that
>> because
>> the centres on a standard Rubik's Cube can have various different
>> orientations and we still consider it 'solved', then it isn't a puzzle.
>> By this definition only supercubes are puzzles.
>>
>> I thought the book sounded pretty crap. My friend didn't necessarily
>> believe it either, but had told me about it because she knew I'd be
>> interested in anything that mentioned cubes. Maybe the author was just
>> trying to convince sudoku solvers that they are cooler than cubers?? ;)
>>
>> What does everyone else think?
>>
>> BTW, I consulted Wikipedia to see what it had to say on the matter:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puzzle (You'll see that the cube is almost
>> the definition of puzzle in Wikipedia! Well, not quite, but you'll see
>> what I mean if you follow this link.)
>>
>> Jasmine
>> http://speedcuber.blogspot.com
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