[I apologize if you get this message twice... it didn't seem to send the first time] Jasmine/Matt -- at the moment, I solve the first layer and second layer seperately. I took a look at a couple sites, but I'm not sure which one to use... they seem a little difficult to follow. Any suggestions for what sites I should visit for learning how to solve F2L pairs? Please provide links beacuse I am not familiar with any of the names of sites. Also, what is meant by a "4 look method" or a "3 look method", etc?
Thanks! David Matt Moberly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Right on. F2L pairs is your definite next step. I was using your method and picked up Fridrich in manageable chunks using the following steps: I learned F2L pairs from Fridrich's site and stuck to the 4LLL until I had a consistent sub 30 time on F2L. F2L pairs is easy to learn on its own because you can set each algorithm up to practice quickly. I didn't move on from each algorithm until I really understood how it worked. That helps a ton in reducing your decision making time for each pair. Then I created a sort of 3 look LL method by orienting edges first using my old method and using Fridrich to orient the corners and permute the LL. There are only 6 Fridrich LL orientation algorithms where all edges are already oriented, so it seemed like a good small chunk to learn, instead of trying to memorize all 41 or w/e at once. I had to break the Fridrich method into reasonable chunks to keep from giving up. :-) But I went from 3 min. solves using your method to sub 60 very quickly. - Matt On 1/6/06, Jasmine Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sub-60s is definitely possible with a 4-look LL. I used to solve with a > 4-look LL and didn't really bother learning more LL algorithms until I > got my average under 60s. > > It's possible to go much faster than 60s with 4-look LL. I've seen > people do 30s solves with a 4-look LL! > > Are you solving with F2L pairs? If not then I'd advise that would be a > very valuable next step. F2L pairs are not that difficult to work out on > your own and they'll really improve your solve times once you get the > hang of them. > > BTW, re working stuff out on your own (just referring to another > discussion string on the group), I feel pretty strongly about this with > regard to the F2L. Even now I never use an F2L trick unless I understand > exactly how it works. :) > > Jasmine > http://speedcuber.blogspot.com > > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 21:06:50 -0800 (PST), "David Pritts" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > Are you sure? It seems like it would be absolutely ridiculous to > > cut down the time that much. Even if I did no thinking or > > looking at the cube at all, but instead just always knew exactly > > which algorithm to use instantly, I think the way I'm doing it > > now would still take over a minute... > > > > any other thoughts? > > > > And even so, I'll eventually want to start getting more > > advanced and using some of the methods that you guys use... the > > methods which allow you to do cubes in 20 seconds. > > > > For the time being, I'm looking for any methods which are > > slightly faster than my current method, but I'd rather not try > > to learn any of the hardest methods first. > > > > Let me know.. thanks! > > > > David > > > > ----------------------- > > > > thebunze wrote: > > with that method you use now, you could get less than 60 seconds > > > > David Pritts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey -- Jason, you > > said that I should learn the ROUx method... so you recommend > > just going to [1]http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Intro.html and > > learning the method there? > > > > I am just getting to the point where I can solve the cube > > consistently without having to look at any references (thanks to > > the help provided by many of you who have answered my questions > > in the past few days). My method is: > > -Solve first 2 layers > > -Solve the cross of the bottom layer > > -Get the LL corners in the right place > > -Get the LL corners rotated correctly > > -Switch any incorrect corners > > > > I am starting to get pretty good at this, but I know there is > > little I can do besides getting faster with my algorithms and > > cutting down time doing the first layer. I can do it in about 4 > > minutes usually, but I want to start learning more advanced > > methods. > > > > I'm not looking to be the best cuber ever or anything, but I > > would like to at least get my average down to 90 seconds or 2 > > minutes. > > > > What are the most common methods that you guys use, how > > difficult are they to learn and use, and how fast are they? > > > > thanks!! > > > > -David > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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