Hey Joel, Looking back at your page I actually did change some stuff. I read your page a while back and liked the idea, but I substituted a different corner flip commutator without realizing.
To flip corners I showed them L D2 L' F' D2 F to flip the corner clockwise and F' D2 F L D2 L' to flip counterclockwise. Other than that I used the same moves you did exactly for the LL. What made this work so well is that after doing L D2 L' type moves to flip corners, then also using L D2 L' to move them (I used the L reflection, since I prefer LU moves) I could say "and of course that should look familiar, we're using the same idea as flipping corners only we're only doing part of the move". So all the moves were conjugate manuevers with a D2 in them. To move edges I used your M D2 M' so again the same form. Having absolutely every step of a similar form (conjuagte with a D2) made it very easy for them to memorize. My only suggestion for the method on your site would be to try that commutator for flipping corners since it makes everything a conjugate with a D2 move. The repetition helps a lot for helping a beginner remember what to do. Just my two cents of course, but I found it to work very, very well. Well thanks Ton and Joel for the idea, I like this commutator LL much better than my old way of showing people, and will definitely use it in the future. So thanks again! Chris --- In [email protected], Joël van Noort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Chris! > > Nice to hear that the method works... Allthough I have to say a few > things about this... I didn't really come up with the method myself. > I really just combined some existing moves to make a method... And > Ton Dennebroek was using the same type of ideas to teach beginners > to solve the cube. > > One other thing: People on the internet really don't like that > commutator. I made a simpler method that is easier to follow from > the webpage. I think my explanation of the commutator method is > somewhat complicated or something... But because commutators are > cool, I am now also making a section about them! It will take a > while to finish it, but it's gonna be interesting for both beginners > and experienced cubers (who don't know about commutators). > > Happy cubing :), > > - Joël Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
