I average about 30 moves for F2L, and my average for the whole cube 
is under 16 seconds. Yes, I don't use all the ones from puzzling 
adiction... I prefer to use a lot of two generator moves.

- Joël.

--- In [email protected], shamsul khawaja 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I remember reading that (sorry cant  remember who wrote it) it 
takes them around 20 moves average on f2l 
>   is that tru for everbody that does isub 30s? 
>   it takes me average 28-30 moves 
>   Do u guys use the fredrich or some "Super complex/dangerous f2l 
shortcuts" like the ones on puzzling addiction . I remeber people 
also saying that they arent very comfortable and dangerous (if u 
mess up )since you move the cross layer. They rather do the 8 move 
to slot the pairs in
>   I use some but i rarely get around 20 moves. even without 
aligning and then reconizing what to do. 
>   so what do you guys do?
> 
> 
> SHAMSUL
>  
> Khawaja
> 
> 
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