If I can count 180 degree turns as well...I would say I average 29-30 
turns for the f2l.

-Richard


--- In [email protected], David Pritts 
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>
> I'm working on my intuitive F2L right now and can usually solve the 
F2L in between 35-60 seconds (i know, a broad range). I have a list 
of the algs, and I have deconstructed them and learned new techniques 
from them.. however, since they are optimized, there are some cases 
which are simply not intuitive. 
>    
>   Has someone made a site which shows exactly how a good cubist 
would solve difficult cases intuitively?
>    
>   I don't want to memorize these algs, so how should I deal with 
these cases? I can certainly solve them, but it's slow. In some of 
these cases, I think it might be faster/easier to use the newbie 
method, solving the corner first and using an 8-move alg to insert 
the edge. Is that a good way of dealing with these cases?
>    
>   In general, after understanding the basics of intuitive F2L, how 
do I improve? (besides practice, practice, practice). Are there more 
advanced techniques?
>    
>   David 
>    
>   ps--how many moves (90 degree) does it take you guys to solve the 
F2L (not including cross)?
> 
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