i'm fully aware of what i said and i meant everything i said, its fine if you're not interested in sharing the details of your process, when i think about it i'd like to work it out myself, however you don't have turn it into a personal attack and post private messages between us in the group. i think i was polite during our exchange until about end of the third message when i was tired of even hearing about it. furthermore, after speaking with ron who said you very well may have discovered a lot of those algs originally using his cubesolver, i did post a message in the group that included you. granted you weren't the spotlight of the message, but there is a lot more to bigcubes.com then the last 2 edge algs for 5x5. since you wanted to show half the conversation i'll be sure to have your side at the end of this post. finally and most importantly, i'm currently experimenting with ron's cubesolve to work on these cases, when i have a definate process of move restrictions and ignored pieces, and/or more algs i will post them for all. sorry to all about the dirty laundry being aired on the forum.
#1 > Hi Clancy, > > i'm happy to see my 5*5*5 algs on your page > > http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/12920 > > No problem if tou put my name on them... > > Have fun, > > Frédérick #2 I understand your position. You don't have to mention anybody if you don't want to do it. No problem. Just learn how to say hello, and to get a clue within the sites that already exist. Macky and Stephan had the courtesy to mention the origins of the algs they had published.... An other point, what do you mean with "get a clue" ? And it's another problem than ego to say I'm a liar. All algs on your page came from my post on the international forum, I publish them for the first time on the french forum, the others on your page are the trivial case without the parity problem. I will forward a mail I had with Stephan..... Why don't you publish the alg to correct the double parity error for the 444 ? It's the same than one of the 555. Anybody can use a cube solver applet ? Nope for the big cubes. A cube solver gave many solutions for a configuration. Why chose one or an others ? It's just a personnal choice. So why it's my algs you decided to publish ? Have fun, Frederick. ----- Original Message ---- From: Frédérick BADIE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:17:00 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5 --- In [email protected], "perscription_death" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > nice alg, frederick, maybe you could explain to us all how you get > these and other edge algs using the cube solver applets, i'm very > interested to hear the details Hi Clancy, all parity algs on your website come from me (message 12920 on this forum), except Chris Hardwick's one which is longer than mine. Few months ago, I asked you a friendly question about the credit page of bigcubes.com According to your answers ( with no polite words, like "hello" by example), you doubted I found them by myself, and you said anybody could find algs because it's easy with computers. So, if it's so easy, do it by yourself, publish your own algs or respect the others. I can refresh your memory if you don't remember what your answers were. You said : ""well i have never even seen the page you posted, i got all of those algorithms from frank morris, he said some of them came may have come from ron, stefan, chris and others, including you, although you are the only one that feels the need to claim any credit for these. feel free to ask frank about his involvement in this project. if some algs trickled down to him from you great, but i really doubt you found every single one of those on your own, since lots of people could and can solve the professor long before you....and furthermore i don't think anyone "owns" algorithms....the reason i mentioned his name is because he actually helped me, and didn't just want credit for something anyone could have found, lots of people know how to run cube solver applets. I haven't really given anyone credit for anything yet, i was more concerned with bettering the cubing community and getting more people into solving larger cubes than an ego trip."" ""again i NEVER saw the post u showed me, ask frank morris he sent me all of those algs. and i will be happy to give credit to anyone that has contributed to the big cube community, but as i said the site isn't done, i wanted to give people that information since i had seen repeated frequent posts regarding those last 2 sets of edges. i plan on expanding the site site to 4x4 also, but since there is already a decent method method on this on chris' site the 5x5 was my first focus. again i don't claim to have made these up, honestly i don't care who did, i'm interested in providing the information to everyone. and yes everyone can use a solver for larger cubes, you're not the only one capable of writing or using solving programs. for the fourth time, i didn't choose any of these algorithms, as i said they were given to me by frank. i said get a clue because these are not YOUR algs. they are everyone's. i thought all cubers were less selfish than that and more concerned about helping everyone to get as good as they can be. but be rest assured when i get to the credits page which is my LAST priorty, your name will surely be mentioned as i am fully aware of your contributions to the big cube community. it seems a litte ridiculous that within no time of that being posted all that you are concerned about credit for algs that many people have and use. Feel free to message me if u want to continue this conversation, also i'm sure frank can vouch for the fact that EVERY SINGLE last 2 edge algorithm on that page, was given to me by him. now i'm kind of busy trying to make the best site for larger cubes on the net, so kindly excuse me if i don't have time to give credit to everyone who thinks they discovered something that was around long before they had picked a cube up."" For your "dreaded 10th case", I posted : (F2) (Rr) D2 (Rr)' F2 U2 F2 (Ll) B2 (Ll)' F2 It's in the message 12920. Have fun, Frédérick. SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! 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