>-----Original Message-----
>From: Oikarinen Juuso (Nokia-D/Tampere) 
>Sent: 09 April, 2010 07:06
>To: Tereshonkov Roman (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
>Cc: ext Grant Likely; spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net; 
>Samuel Ortiz
>Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/2] spi: Add support for dma_min_bytes 
>configuration.
>
>Hi,
>
>The wl1271 driver does not actually require this value to be adjustable
>- i.e. the driver does not need to know the value. In fact, the wl1271
>does not know about DMA at all, instead the SPI controller driver makes
>the choice on how to perform the transfer most optimally.
>
>So we - or the wl1271 driver - just need the selection between DMA and
>PIO to be optimal in point of view of throughput and CPU load. The old
>threshold value of 8 is far from optimal - something like 160-200 is in
>the correct range.
>
>AFAIK performing the SPI transfer optimally should not affect other SPI
>clients in a negative way, and AFAIK there are no other SPI clients in
>Dali than the wl1271, so I guess this new threshold value could also be
>hard-coded into the omap2_mcspi driver.



What about omap2 based projects which use the same driver?



Roman


>
>-Juuso
>
>On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 17:25 +0200, Tereshonkov Roman (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
>wrote:
>> The others from wlan team need DMA_MIN_BYTES to be adjustable.
>> Juuso can comment this.
>> 
>> Just changing DMA_MIN_BYTES might influence on other spi devices 
>> controlled by omap2/3 spi controller driver.
>> 
>> Roman
>> 
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: glik...@secretlab.ca [mailto:glik...@secretlab.ca] On 
>> >Behalf Of ext Grant Likely
>> >Sent: 08 April, 2010 18:09
>> >To: Tereshonkov Roman (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
>> >Cc: spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net; Samuel Ortiz
>> >Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] spi: Add support for dma_min_bytes 
>> >configuration.
>> >
>> >On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:33 AM,  
><roman.tereshon...@nokia.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>From: glik...@secretlab.ca [mailto:glik...@secretlab.ca] On
>> >>>Behalf Of ext Grant Likely
>> >>>Sent: 08 April, 2010 09:27
>> >>>To: Tereshonkov Roman (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
>> >>>Cc: spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >>>Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] spi: Add support for dma_min_bytes
>> >>>configuration.
>> >>>
>> >>>Hi Roman,
>> >>>
>> >>>On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Roman Tereshonkov
>> >>><roman.tereshon...@nokia.com> wrote:
>> >>>> This parameters defines the minimum number of bytes when 
>> >dma is used.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Roman Tereshonkov <roman.tereshon...@nokia.com>
>> >>>
>> >>>The intent of this feature is... ?  Your patch needs a better
>> >>>description as to why it is needed; especially considering that it
>> >>>changes common code.
>> >>>
>> >>>But, inferring from the code that is written, I can guess 
>what you're
>> >>>trying to do, if not why.  Why would spi_devices care what 
>> >the minimum
>> >>>size of a DMA transfer is?  The SPI bus driver is in a far better
>> >>>position to make that determination.
>> >>>
>> >>>Also, since this essentially adds a new 'knob' for spi_devices to
>> >>>twiddle, what is the expected behaviour for SPI bus 
>controllers that
>> >>>don't support it?  Is it a required feature for spi bus drivers to
>> >>>implement if they support DMA?
>> >>
>> >> The spi transactions can be handled in two ways: dma and pio.
>> >> For the best perfomance the minimun number of bytes when 
>dma is used
>> >> can be found experimentaly and passed through the platform 
>> >board config files.
>> >>
>> >> Now I will talk about omap2/3 spi only.
>> >> If the mentioned parameter is not set then the static default one
>> >> is used (as it is nowdays).
>> >> This exludes the patch influence on other spi devices controlled
>> >> by the same omap2/3 spi master.
>> >>
>> >> I think you might be right. The better way would be to pass it
>> >> through the controller_data field of the spi_board_info.
>> >> Then I do not need to touch spi.h and spi.c.
>> >
>> >The question that must be asked, will this new optimization option
>> >actually be profiled for most boards?  Should it really be a
>> >board-specific parameter?  Or even an SoC specific parameter?  Or to
>> >be even more specific, do *you* have two different boards 
>that need a
>> >different value for the minimum dma bytes?
>> >
>> >If the answer is no, then I recommend profiling your platform and
>> >floating out a patch that changes the default value to what you find
>> >is best.  If there is no opposition to the value you choose, then
>> >there is no need to make it a tunable until someone else comes along
>> >who needs it to be something different.
>> >
>> >The current value of DMA_MIN_BYTES hasn't changed since the 
>driver was
>> >first submitted.  I suspect that it has not been optimized. 
> What does
>> >Samuel have to say about it?
>> >
>> >g.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I will create a new patch.
>> >> But now I wonder about patches syncronization.
>> >> The first patch should go to linux-omap tree as it is for 
>> >arch/arm/plat-omap/include/plat/mcspi.h.
>> >> The second patch applied after the first one is for 
>> >driver/spi/omap2_mcspi.h.
>> >> Or can you handle both patches?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> Roman
>> >
>
>
>
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