Jimmy Kaplowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > The issue with the Debian website copyright is rather different and is > much more complicated, because contacting all past contributors to that > website, getting some sort of legal document signed with them, and > convincing all current and future contributors to do the same would be a > huge task.
First off, I'm not sure that this is so different, because OpenWRT may be expecting ease of bugfixing licensing to be one of the benefits of copyright centralisation. Secondly, is it necessary to contact all past contributors, what legal document would need to be signed by them and all current and future contributors? I think the debian contributors interested in this realise it's a potentially huge task, but SPI hasn't given an explicit answer about what we can do to resolve it AFAIK. Yes, we can go off at half-cock, based on some incorrect layman understanding, do a huge task and then still find we've not fixed the bug, but I'd rather not, OK? > I'm not saying this is impossible, but if I'm not mistaken, > Debian hasn't even decided how it wants to resolve the issue, so SPI > can't really do much. SPI has the lawyers. SPI needs to help find out what the debian project's options for resolving this issue, please! Is that really the problem? SPI wants more direction from the debian project still? Unless I'm much mistaken, those 2005 meetings had the then-DPL present. If SPI board wanted more official Debian direction, it could have been obtained almost immediately, but it seemed like SPI's board was happy to allow a debian contributor to ask its lawyer. Did that ever happen? I can't tell: I didn't find the outcome recorded anywhere. The loop never closed, did it? > Additionally, these discussions happened back in > 2005, and the SPI Board has become much more organized and better > prepared in the three years since then. Agreed. Also, past performance is not necessarily an indication of future returns and so on, but it's one of the few predictors that we have and the promises and positions on these topics have not changed in the meantime. > [...] MJ Ray is a very active contributing member, > though has never been on the SPI board, and is therefore speaking in his > individual capacity. Yeah, and He Is Not A Lawyer either. Please do *not* import bad habits of some idiots on debian lists to this mailing list. Unless stated otherwise, even if they are posting with @debian or @spi-inc, all posts are made in a personal capacity. In my case, I usually have signature links to some home page(s) which often include that info, unlike several other posters. [...] > P.S. - MJ, those minutes are in fact no longer draft, but many of our > old minutes have not been updated to remove the text saying that they > are no longer draft. In actual fact, all minutes except the ones from > the most recent meeting have been approved. Can someone do a multi-page search-and-replace, please? (From memory, worst case, with plone/zope, mount it with curlftpfs and use sed.) Regards, -- MJ Ray http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html tel:+44-844-4437-237 - Webmaster-developer, statistician, sysadmin, online shop builder, consumer and workers co-operative member http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ - Writing on koha, debian, sat TV, Kewstoke http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ _______________________________________________ Spi-general mailing list [email protected] http://lists.spi-inc.org/listinfo/spi-general
