lets clear a few things up one, ceramic coating other then for looks adds not one iota of hp to a saturn, noone has proven the hotshot to be more hp, all cars vary 1-2 hp for many reason, next ceramic coating is just for looks, our cars valves can only suck in and throw out so much (a reason why a plain k+n cone slapped on the end of the tube is just as effective as a hotshot or iceman intake, the valves can only draw in so much,a k+n cone by itself serves plenty of airflow and a stock header provides more then enough out go.) ceramic coating on a 500 hp car is one thing, on a 140 hp , at best, car it makes not one inch of difference. next, when we sell headers we gladly send a working 02 on request, some people prefer a new one, last, if your messing with cars you should at least have basic knowledge to weld up your own stock header, personally, on my cars? id take the stock and save the extra dough, and no, im out of them right now so im not trying to sell one, im just clearing the air from a guy who built more professional race engines here then anyone. if you dont have a welder any welder that charges you more than 25 bucks for that simple 10 minute weld is charging to much. to recap, now, yes, a used header is far cheaper then a hotshot.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Feeny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [SPOC] Header and Cat installed. > Yeah esp when I got mine from CWC, the stock header after coating would > have been $25 more (jet hot, I could have netted $25 for a local ceramic > coating shop to do it) > > Chris > > --- > ... Christopher Feeny > web: http://30moons.com > job: Web Developer (asp, php, html, database backend, graphics) > hob: online since 1983, 96 Saturn SC2, PC building, web research > ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The hotshot headers don't crack anymore. They just came out with a new design about 2 months ago. It's still 4-2-1 but with better welds and a new flange. > > > > I got a 92 header and had it ceramic coated. More often than not if you get a 92 header, you'll get a bad O2 sensor with it or you won't get one at all. So $125-150 for the header, add another $60-80 for a 92 O2 sensor and your at about $200. If you want to ceramic coat it (I did because the header looked like arse and I wanted the added benifit of ceramic coating it) that's another $100 easy. Also, the 92 downpipe is longer than the stock ones for the 93+ which means you have to cut your piping and slid back your cat. If you wanted it welded its another $50 or so. Now we're about the same as the Hotshot with a lot less hassle. > > > > Just my $.02 > > > > -Patrick > > BTW for those of you who are wondering, my site will be back up by 1pm(ish) EST > > Visit SPOC National at http://www.spocnational.org > > > > Don't forget to update your Profile in the Owners Database. > > > > Visit SPOC National at http://www.spocnational.org > > Don't forget to update your Profile in the Owners Database. > Visit SPOC National at http://www.spocnational.org Don't forget to update your Profile in the Owners Database.
