Dang guys, the header makes a WORLD of difference... if you have other mods. Which I believe we all do. When modding a car, you have to find the weakest link and fix that and then repeat this process over and over. As far as why saturn stopped making them, it is somewhat of a noise issue but think of the money they save pumping out hundreds of stamped steel manifolds as opposed to crushed piping. more volume=more cash
----Original Message Follows---- From: "6th Planet Used Parts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [SPOC] header and downpipe Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:14:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [24.242.153.78] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBE90A604000B40042A1E18F2994E134E0; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:25:26 -0700 Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84] by roadrunn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.05) id A99D6EE400BC; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:19:25 -0500 Received: from sdn-ar-002flfmyep227.dialsprint.net ([168.191.79.243] helo=1)by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2)id 170Xut-0000QL-00for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:19:23 -0700 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:25:45 -0700 Message-ID: <01aa01c1ebf6$88dc36a0$f34fbfa8@1> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <001501c1ebf7$bfce43a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Precedence: bulk Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] the header was the single best improvement done to a otherwise stock saturn (except nos or something like that, out of all the bolt ons you really feel a header), it gives you more seat of the pants mid range then a throttle body or intake alone or many other minor mods. cars were built with the second exhaust manifold to combat critics of excessive interior and road noise. the cast manifolds are more restrictive and also quieter. the factory headers weather used or an aftermarket company will be the best bang for buck. the exhaust manifolds that came into play in 92 were simply made to reduce noise, no other reason whatsoever. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [SPOC] header and downpipe > I've heard there really is no improvement with the 91-92 header. Otherwise, > saturn would keep it. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Feeny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:27 AM > Subject: Re: [SPOC] header and downpipe > > > > I believe it is noticible, I had the rest of my mods and I still noticed a > > difference when I added the hotshot (which is equivalent to the 91-92 > > header). I believe it's worth about 5hp max, but really opens up the > > whole midrange more than the peak numbers show. > > > > Plus the looks under the hood are alot nicer :) > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > --- > > ... Christopher Feeny > > web: http://30moons.com > > job: Web Developer (asp, php, html, database backend, graphics) > > hob: online since 1983, 96 Saturn SC2, PC building, web research > > ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Valerie Beall wrote: > > > > > I have a 96 DOHC...i am having a 92 DOHC exhaust header and downpipe > > > installed. > > > Did anyone have trouble with the differences in size of the stock verses > the > > > early 90 model? I already ran into the difference in O2 sensor problem > and > > > got an O2 from a 92 DOHC. > > > What are the hp gains of the 92 header over the stock one in my car? I > know > > > the 92 is susposed to be very similar to the hotshot in design and > > > performance...but can anyone tell me if you can feel the difference or > if it > > > is dyno proven? > > > > > > Valerie > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit SPOC National at http://www.spocnational.org > > > > > > Don't forget to update your Profile in the Owners Database. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list at any time, send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any subject, and in the message text, > "Unsubscribe spoc". > > > > > > > > > > > Visit SPOC National at http://www.spocnational.org > > > > Don't forget to update your Profile in the Owners Database. > > > > To unsubscribe from the list at any time, send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any subject, and in the message text, > "Unsubscribe spoc". > > > > > > Visit SPOC National at http://www.spocnational.org > > Don't forget to update your Profile in the Owners Database. > > To unsubscribe from the list at any time, send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any subject, and in the message text, "Unsubscribe spoc". > > Visit SPOC National at http://www.spocnational.org Don't forget to update your Profile in the Owners Database. 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