>From: "Paul K. Swanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: SPORRS: Re: Slide Scanners
>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 20:00:01 -0600
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>Jeffrey:
>
>More of my input to SPORRS...for what it's worth...
>
>I agree with items 1 and 2.  I do not agree with item 3.  The key to
>quality here, is the ability of the operator to properly manipulate the
>scanner software and make proper settings, etc.  Some compensation can be
>made in Photoshop after the fact of course, again limited by the abilities
>of the software operator.  I have seen many a drum scan that looks like
>crap because it has not been properly done (most common problem is too
>much sharpening--too much of a good thing?).  My Nikon LS-1000 does an
>adequate job for 150lpi halftones in B&W, because it has 36-bit sampling
>and a higher density rating.  My flatbed Microtek scanner has a density
>rating of 3.4, which is higher than the usual 3.0 that you see advertised
>on other high-end consumer flatbeds.  I have done B&W relflective work
>with the flatbed that I feel looks better than drum scanner work, although
>I have had to be careful about interpolation.  Just because it is drum
>scanned doesn't mean it is better.  I will agree that many railfan
>publications look like hell (including, unfortunately, the one I produce),
>but the reasons I believe are many.  Much of the color work I see looks
>too dark.  This can be from many causes.  But one fact is this: color
>slides must be slightly underexposed to give a good scan for publication.
>The reason: dot gain on the printing press.  Images will look darker after
>they are printed.  So a lighter original is preferable.  Another reason:
>many print companies now are using soy-based inks to protect the
>environment.  These inks just do not have the quality of previous
>oil-based inks.  Even with high-tech automated presses, etc.  Yet another
>reason: the computerization/digitization of the prepress process.  There
>has been a steep learning curve to get the bugs out of the prepress
>process when it comes to making the work flow entirely digital.  Employees
>must be retrained from their traditional duties of stripping, or using a
>graphics camera.  So now we come full circle and once again, quality is at
>the mercy of the scanner operator.
>
>Paul Swanson, Editor, North Western Lines
>
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>Sent:   Tuesday, November 25, 1997 4:50 PM
>To:     Paul K. Swanson
>Subject:        SPORRS: Re: Slide Scanners
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>>From: "Jim Gilley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Organization: Transcrypt International
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>>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:38:58 -0600
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>>Subject: SPORRS: Re: Slide Scanners
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>>> Does anybody have any suggestions or comments on this or any other
>>> slide scanners?
>>It all depends on what you plan to do with the scanner output:
>>
>>1) I want to post my shots on the web.
>>In this case, buy the cheapest scanner you can find.  I think either
>>the Microtek or Minolta would be just fine, and those can be had for
>>well under $1K.  Let's face it -- it doesn't take much to produce a
>>web quality image -- why waste extra money if you don't need to?
>>Web publication is probably the only legitimate use of these sorts
>>of slide scanners.
>>
>>2) I want to print my shots in a newsletter.
>>You can probably get by with the same scanner as above, since you
>>generally don't need a super high quality image for things like
>>newsletters.  If you want to spend the extra money, you might
>>consider one of the Polaroid SprintScans or one of the Nikon
>>CoolScans, but that probably isn't necessary.
>>
>>3) I want to print my shots in National Geographic
>>You're screwed.  None of the CCD or LED slide scanners out there
>>(including the very expensive Leaf35) are capable of producing
>>images suitable for this level of use.  For these applications, you
>>really DO need a PMT drum scanner, no matter what the morons at
>>Nikon or Polaroid say.  Of course, IF you have about $35K laying
>>around, you can buy one, but you also need some degree of skill to
>>operate it.
>>
>>4) I have no real application, but just want to play
>>Buy whatever you feel you can afford.  Slide scanners ARE great fun
>>to play with, but when it comes right down to it, they are really
>>nothing more than expensive toys at this point.  Sure, you CAN
>>publish images scanned with these things, IF you do a hell of a lot
>>of clean up in Photoshop, AND you are printing them in a half-assed
>>publication.  Surprisingly, resolution is NOT the real problem here;
>>capturing adequate image density IS.  You can always spot a bad scan
>>from a mile away because it has NO detail in either the highlights or
>>shadows.
>>
>>Then again, maybe I'm being overly demanding here.  Seems to me most
>>(not all) railfan oriented publications have gone to hell anyway, so
>>half-assed image quality is probably well above what most of them
>>can produce.  I best drop this topic before I ramble on for hours...
>>
>>I have owned both the Nikon LS10 Coolscan (which I hated), and the
>>Polaroid SprintScan 35 Plus (which I hate to a much lesser degree).
>>I totally agree with Dave that the Nikon name alone is a good enough
>>reason to stay away from that scanner, but if you go into the deal
>>knowing full well there is no such thing as customer service or
>>support, then perhaps you will be happy.  Polaroid customer service
>>is better, but is still not what I would call great.  I cannot speak
>>of other scanners, as I have not owned them.  I WILL caution you to
>>listen to none of the lies that are advertised about any of these
>>scanners -- remember, the goal of a salesman is to sell something,
>>NOT to tell the truth about it -- it's YOUR money, and your decision.
>>
>>Good luck:
>>Grumpy
>>Jim Gilley
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>http://www.eesoft.com/rr
>>--> SPORRS: Serious Photographers of Railroad Related Subjects
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