Hi Xu,

Sure you could. You could do a lot of other things as well.

But what does this buy you if you already have dual stack network
which most operators already do for years ?

For clarity I do not consider as sufficient reason fear from one going
into anaphylactic shock at the mention of IPv6 as a valid one.

Cheers,
R.


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Xuxiaohu <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
>
>
> I think Yakov’s point could be interpreted as “you can use MPLS-SR in
> conjunction with MPLS-over-GRE to realize the goal that you have mentioned,
> i.e., only those 4 out of those 1000 nodes need to support segment routing.
> None of the transit nodes needs to be SR aware”. For more details, please
> see http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-spring-islands-connection-over-ip
> and http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/slides/slides-89-spring-0.pptx
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Xiaohu
>
>
>
> 发件人: spring [mailto:[email protected]] 代表 Robert Raszuk
> 发送时间: 2014年3月27日 23:47
> 收件人: Yakov Rekhter
> 抄送: Alvaro Retana, (aretana); [email protected]
> 主题: Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for
> draft-martin-spring-segment-routing-ipv6-use-cases
>
>
>
> Yakov,
>
> The topic here is traffic controll and traffic steering. In MPLS to the best
> of my knowledge the only tool to accomplish that is MPLS TE.
>
> That in turn requires RSVP-TE and pretty heavy IGP extensions.
>
> I  am not aware of any deployments of the above MPLS control planes over GRE
> nor I am aware of using those when only subset of nodes in your domain
> supports required extensions.
>
> If however you are pointing out that to replace LDP one can use GRE I
> completly agree.
>
> Thx,
> R.
>
> On Mar 27, 2014 4:27 PM, "Yakov Rekhter" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Robert,
>
>> Hi Yakov,
>>
>> > The above assumes that the already available technology, MPLS, "may
>> > not be available or deployable for lack of support on network
>> > elements", yet a brand new technology, a new IPv6 Segment Routing
>> > header, will be available, deployable, and supported on network
>> > elements. The authors should elaborate on what makes them think so.
>>
>> Let's observe that in order to encapsulate traffic in MPLS in 1000
>> node network and steer it north and south 1000 nodes need to be able
>> to support MPLS (or for that matter RSVP-TE and IGP extensions - let's
>> leave aside inter-area problems).
>>
>> Contrary if the desire is to steer traffic via north and south nodes
>> from given ingress node to egress node only those 4 out of those 1000
>> nodes need to support segment routing. Non of the transit nodes needs
>> to be SR aware.
>
> The ability to carry MPLS over transit nodes that are not MPLS aware
> is an already solved problem - it is called MPLS-over-GRE (rfc4023).
> Implemented by multiple vendors. Known to be interoperable.
>
> Yakov.
>
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