Hi Yakov,

Yes IMO this would be good addition.

As to the default example perhaps it would be good to make it complete
in a sense of adding label-bgp. We could say:

   In the scenario where a router obtains label binding for a given FEC
   from all (targeted) LDP, Label-BGP and IS-IS/OSPF, the default behavior
   RECOMMENDED in this document is to prefer the one obtained
   from (targeted) LDP followed by ISIS-OSPF one. An implementation
   MUST support the ability to override the default behavior via configuration.

Thx,
R.




On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Yakov Rekhter <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robert,
>
>>
>> Hi Hannes & Yakov,
>>
>> Thank you for your opinion on this.
>>
>> My major concern is consistency among routers especially in large
>> network.
>>
>> While indeed one may say that this is a local policy matter the
>> question is can we do better then that especially where we are coming
>> with new label distribution protocols.
>>
>> Also implementations need to somehow define such policy and perhaps
>> setting a reference to a recommended order in RFC could be a good set
>> of defaults ?
>>
>> Otherwise likely Murphy's law will apply :)
>
> How about if I'll add the following to the draft:
>
>
>    When a router obtains label binding for a given FEC from more than
>    one label distribution protocol (e.g., one binding from targeted LDP
>    and another from IS-IS/OSPF), deciding which label binding to use
>    is a matter of policy local to the router.
>
>    In the scenario where a router obtains label binding for a given FEC
>    from both (targeted) LDP and IS-IS/OSPF, the default behavior
>    RECOMMENDED in this document is to prefer the one obtained
>    from (targeted) LDP. An implementation MUST support the
>    ability to override the default behavior via configuration.
>
> Yakov.
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> R.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Hannes Gredler <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > hi robert,
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 08:21:38PM +0200, Robert Raszuk wrote:
>> > | Hi,
>> > |
>> > | Two comments on this document.
>> > |
>> > |
>> > | Question:
>> > |
>> > | Assume there is label binding received for a given FEC from/by
>> > | multiple protocols. Which one should be chosen by the LSR to be
>> used
>> > | in data plane? Choosing wrong one may jeoparadise the hope of
>> > | stitching.
>> >
>> > i'd assume that an implementation supporting multiple
>> > label-distribution protocols, has an internal tie-breaking scheme and
>> > install LSPs for a fiven FEC only from the highest ranking protocol.
>> >
>> > | Is consistent manual configuration across multiple LSRs an answer ?
>> >
>> > possibly; - see below;
>> >
>> > | If so document should mention that. Otherwise analogy of admin
>> > | distance for FECs should be proposed.
>> >
>> > explicitly mentioning that there is a plurality of label-binding
>> > protocols seems unecessary to me. you are right insofar as rfc3031
>> > does *not* mention a tie-breaking amon protocols and yet there are
>> > implemntations who support more than one concurrent label-
>> distribution protocol.
>> >
>> > | Example: Is FEC distributed by OSPF more important then FEC
>> > | distributed by targetted LDP session in the same OSPF domain ?
>> >
>> > that is an implementation choice; hopefully the administrative
>> > preference is user configurable.
>> >
>> > | On the other hand if this case is considered an error a
>> > | corresponding error handling section may be required.
>> > |
>> > |
>> > | Recommendation:
>> > |
>> > | s/distirbution/distribution/
>> > |
>> > |
>> > | Best regards,
>> > | R.
>> > |
>> > |
>> > | On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Yakov Rekhter <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > | > Alvaro and John,
>> > | >
>> > | > The authors of draft-gredler-spring-mpls-05.txt would like to ask
>> > | > SPRING WG to accept this draft as SPRING WG document.
>> > | >
>> > | > Yakov.
>> > | > ------- Forwarded Message
>> > | >
>> > | > Date:    Fri, 16 May 2014 10:33:51 -0700
>> > | > From:    <[email protected]>
>> > | > To:      <[email protected]>
>> > | > Subject: I-D Action: draft-gredler-spring-mpls-05.txt
>> > | >
>> > | >
>> > | > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-
>> Drafts directories.
>> > | >
>> > | >
>> > | >         Title           : Supporting Source/Explicitly Routed
>> Tunnels via Stack
>> > | > ed LSPs
>> > | >         Authors         : Hannes Gredler
>> > | >                           Yakov Rekhter
>> > | >                           Luay Jalil
>> > | >                           Sriganesh Kini
>> > | >                           Xiaohu Xu
>> > | >         Filename        : draft-gredler-spring-mpls-05.txt
>> > | >         Pages           : 17
>> > | >         Date            : 2014-05-16
>> > | >
>> > | > Abstract:
>> > | >    This document describes how source/explicitly routed tunnels
>> could be
>> > | >    realized using stacked Label Switched Paths (LSPs).
>> > | >
>> > | >    This document also describes how use of IS-IS/OSPF as a label
>> > | >    distribution protocol fits into the MPLS architecture.
>> > | >
>> > | >
>> > | > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> > | > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gredler-spring-mpls/
>> > | >
>> > | > There's also a htmlized version available at:
>> > | > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gredler-spring-mpls-05
>> > | >
>> > | > A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> > | > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-gredler-spring-mpls-05
>> > | >
>> > | >
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