Stefano,

Sure. I agree.

Thanks for pointing out mapping server overlap here and usage of Binding TLVs.

IMO, it's good to refer these explicitly from the binding TLV sub-sections of 
IGP documents (as things are not obvious as is with the case for  
node-sid/adj-sid).

--
Uma C.


-----Original Message-----
From: Stefano Previdi (sprevidi) [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:54 PM
To: Uma Chunduri
Cc: Chris Bowers; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] comment on draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions-02

Uma,

I agree.

I think we also explicitly stated this during our meeting in Toronto (from the 
minutes):

   --------------------------------------------------------------------
   Uma: Needed to reference use cases in Hannes' draft.
   Hannes: Perhaps what we could do is add some practical examples for
           RSVP, BGP, and LDP LSPs binding. Not formal use cases.
   Stefano: Would rather not go into applications in this ISIS draft.
   Peter Psenak: Should go into a separate document that could be
           referenced from both ISIS and OSPF.
   Alia Atlas: There is a SPRING WG for such a document.
   -------------------------------------------------------------------

Now, note that:
   draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing
   draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing-ldp-interop

describe the use case of the SR Mapping Server that is implemented using the 
Binding TLV.

As you suggested, Hannes drafts can be combined so to produce a use-case 
document (in spring) for the Binding TLV RSVP-based use-cases.


s.


On Jul 31, 2014, at 11:55 PM, Uma Chunduri wrote:

> [CC'ed Spring WG]
>  
> I agree with what Chris said below in principle. But all this should not be 
> obviously part of ISIS/IGP extensions WG documents..
>  
> Use  cases for binding TLVs are explained in great details in 2 key 
> documents (had to shuffle through to get here) -
>  
> 1.       
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gredler-rtgwg-igp-label-advertisement-05
> 2.       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gredler-spring-mpls-06
>  
> IMO, both are very useful documents.
> It would be good  to combine both of these and publish as a "spring " 
> document and eventually it should progress there.
> AFAICT, Both ISIS and OSPF should refer the same eventually to get more 
> clarity and use of binding TLVs described currently.
>  
> --
> Uma C.
>  
> From: Isis-wg [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris 
> Bowers
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 2:42 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Isis-wg] comment on 
> draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions-02
>  
> All,
>  
> The current text of draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions-02 does not 
> clearly explain the usage of the Binding TLV for advertising LSPs created 
> using other protocols.  I would like to propose the following text to be 
> included as section 2.5 .
>  
> Thanks,
> Chris
>  
> ----------------
>  
> 2.5 Binding TLV usage examples
>  
> This section gives examples of using the Binding TLV to advertise SID/label 
> bindings associated with RSVP-TE, LDP, and BGP labeled-unicast LSPs.  It also 
> includes an example of advertising a context-id for egress node protection.  
> All of the examples assume that the Binding TLV weight=1 and metric=100. 
>  
> 2.5.1 Advertising an RSVP-TE LSP using the Binding TLV
>  
> Assume that R1 has signaled an RSVP-TE LSP to egress router (R4) with 
> router-id=10.4.4.4, with ER0 = (192.1.2.2 [strict], 192.2.3.2 [strict], 
> 192.3.4.2 [strict]). R1 can advertise a locally significant label binding for 
> this LSP (with label value=1099)  using the following values and sub-TLVs in 
> the Binding TLV. 
>  
> Binding-TLV: F-bit=0, M-bit=0, weight=1, range=1, prefix length=32, 
> FEC prefix=10.4.4.4 SID/Label Sub-TLV: label=1099 ERO Metric sub-TLV: 
> metric=100
> IPv4 ERO sub-TLV: L-bit=0, IPv4 address=192.1.2.2
> IPv4 ERO sub-TLV: L-bit=0, IPv4 address=192.2.3.2
> IPv4 ERO sub-TLV: L-bit=0, IPv4 address=192.3.4.2
>  
> 2.5.2 Advertising an LDP LSP using the Binding TLV
>  
> Assume that R5 has learned a FEC-label binding via LDP for FEC=10.8.8.8/32.  
> R5 can advertise a locally significant label binding for this LSP (with label 
> value=5099) using the following values and sub-TLVs in the Binding TLV. 
>  
> Binding TLV: F-bit=0, M-bit=0, weight=1, range=1, prefix length=32, 
> FEC prefix=10.8.8.8 SID/Label Sub-TLV: label=5099 ERO Metric sub-TLV: 
> metric=100
> IPv4 ERO sub-TLV: L-bit=1, IPv4 address=10.8.8.8
>  
> 2.5.3 Advertising a BGP labeled-unicast LSP using the Binding TLV
>  
> Assume that R9 has used BGP labeled-unicast to learn a label binding for 
> prefix 10.15.15.15/32 with BGP next-hop=10.12.12.12.   R9 can advertise a 
> locally significant label binding for this LSP (with label value=7099)  using 
> the following values and sub-TLVs in the Binding TLV. 
>  
> Binding-TLV: F-bit=0, M-bit=0, weight=1, range=1, prefix length=32, 
> FEC prefix=10.15.15.15 SID/Label Sub-TLV: label=7099 ERO Metric 
> sub-TLV: metric=100
> IPv4 ERO sub-TLV: L-bit=1, IPv4 address=10.12.12.12
>  
> 2.5.4 Advertising a context-id for egress node protection using the 
> Binding TLV
>  
> Assume that R22 is configured in the protector role to provide egress node 
> protection for R21 using context-id=10.0.0.21.  R22 can advertise the label 
> associated with this context-id (with label value=8099) using the following 
> values and sub-TLVs in the Binding TLV.
>  
> Binding TLV: F-bit=0, M-bit=1, weight=1, range=1, prefix length=32, 
> FEC prefix=10.0.0.21 SID/Label Sub-TLV: label=8099
>  
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