Hi Eric,

Why don't we go a bit further on that and consider section 3.2.3 of arch
draft:

3.2.3 
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-06#section-3.2.3>.
IPv6 Dataplane

   When SR is used over the IPv6 dataplane:

   o  The Prefix-SID is the prefix itself.

       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


How do you define PHP when SR is used over v6 ? Is this removal of
entire new v6 header if the new header was imposed by SR ingress node?


Is it cleaning path list in the extension header ?


Or is PHP you are referring to really PHP-for_SR_MPLS only and all
text currently referring to PHP is only applicable to PHP-for_SR_MPLS
?


Many thx,

R.



On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Eric C Rosen <[email protected]> wrote:

> There seems to be some inconsistency in the various documents about the
> way that penultimate hop popping is handled.
>
> When advertising a prefix-SID via OSPF, the OSPF Segment Routing
> extensions associate an NP-Flag with the prefix-SID.  From section 5 of
> draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions:
>
>       If the NP-Flag is not set then any upstream neighbor of the
>       Prefix-SID originator MUST pop the Prefix-SID.  This is equivalent
>       to the penultimate hop popping mechanism used in the MPLS
>       dataplane.
>
> When advertising a prefix-SID via ISIS, the ISIS Segment Routing
> extensions associate a P-flag with the prefix-SID.  From section 2.1.1.2 of
> draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions:
>
>       If the P-flag is not set then any upstream neighbor of the
>       Prefix-SID originator MUST pop the Prefix-SID.  This is
>       equivalent to the penultimate hop popping mechanism used in
>       the MPLS dataplane which improves performance of the
>       ultimate hop.
>
> These specs allow a node to REQUIRE its "upstream neighbors" on a given
> prefix segment to perform penultimate hop popping on any packet whose top
> label corresponds to a prefix-SID that has been advertised via ISIS or OSPF.
>
> The architecture document has a weaker requirement.  From section 3.2.2 of
> draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing:
>
>       The IGP signaling extension for IGP-Prefix segment includes
>       the P-Flag.  A Node N advertising a Prefix-SID SID-R for
>       its attached prefix R resets the P-Flag to allow its
>       connected neighbors to perform the NEXT operation while
>       processing SID-R.  This behavior is equivalent to
>       Penultimate Hop Popping in MPLS.  When set, the neighbors
>       of N must perform the CONTINUE operation while processing
>       SID-R.
>
> This could be interpreted as allowing the upstream neighbor to perform the
> CONTINUE operation even if the P-Flag is clear, which would mean that the
> choice of whether to do PHP is left to the neighbor.  This seems to
> contradict the statements quoted above from the IGP documents.
>
> Shouldn't the architecture document be modified so that it says the same
> thing as the IGP documents?
>
> A related issue in the architecture document stems from the following
> passage from section 3.2.2 of the architecture document:
>
>    o A node N attaching a Prefix-SID SID-R to its attached prefix
>      R MUST maintain the following FIB entry:
>
>      Incoming Active Segment: SID-R
>      Ingress Operation: NEXT
>      Egress interface: NULL
>
> If SID-R has been advertised in OSPF with the NP-flag clear, or if it has
> been advertised in ISIS with the P-flag set, there is no need for this FIB
> entry to be maintained.  Perhaps the passage should actually read:
>
>    o If a node N advertises Prefix-SID SID-R for a prefix R that
>      is attached to N, N MUST either clear the P-Flag in the
>      advertisement of SID-R, or else maintain the following
>      FIB entry:
>
>      Incoming Active Segment: SID-R
>      Ingress Operation: NEXT
>      Egress interface: NULL
>
>
>
>
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