Hi Peter, 

 Thanks much for your comments.  Please find some answers inline. 

Thanks,
Madhukar


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Psenak [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 1:54 AM
To: Madhukar Anand <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Cc: Ramesh Subrahmaniam <[email protected]>; Sanjoy Bardhan 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [spring] Fwd: New Version Notification for 
draft-anand-spring-poi-sr-00.txt

Hi Madhukar,

- you defined Opaque-Adj-SID sub-TLV is an optional sub-TLV of Extended Link 
TLV in case of OSPF and one of the IS-Neighbor TLVs in case of ISIS. The parent 
TLVs in all cases carry the neighbor identifier. 
Repeating the Remote POG Router-ID/System ID in Opaque-Adj-SID sub-TLV looks 
redundant.

[MA] Sure, we will take care of this and remove the redundancy.


- Is the "paths through the optical transport domain" always between adjacent 
POGs? Would not you find it useful to advertise a "path" 
between non adjacent POG nodes?

[MA] Yes, I think there may be scenarios where advertising a path may be 
useful. We will try to modify the TLV to accommodate this.

- Existing SR architecture includes the definition of Binding SID and there are 
extensions for IGPs to advertise it. The SID/Label Binding Sub-TLV is used to 
advertise a SID/Label mapping for a "path" to the prefix. It looks to me there 
is an overlap between the new Opaque-Adj-SID sub-TLV and existing SID/Label 
Binding Sub-TLV. Both of them advertise a "binding label" for a  "path". 
Binding Sub-TLV talks about a path to a prefix, but given that the prefix can 
represent a "Router-ID" of the remote node, it can be used to advertise the 
path to a node.

- Section 4 of the draft says: "The opaque adjacency segment can also 
optionally be announced with a set of attributes that characterizes the path". 
The Opaque-Adj-SID sub-TLV encoding does not provide for additional attributes. 
SID/Label Binding Sub-TLV supports nested sub-TLVs, which allows you to 
advertise path path attributes.

I wonder whether existing Binding Sub-TLV with new sub-TLVs could be used for 
the Packet-Optical integration, rather than defining a new sub-TLV of a similar 
kind.


[MA] Yes, we are currently working with Jeff Tantsura  on the possibility of 
using Binding SIDs for our extension.  We will circle back to you once we make 
progress on this.


thanks,
Peter

On 3/23/16 05:17 , Madhukar Anand wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The following draft talks about connecting packet and optical networks using 
> segment routing as a common control plane. This is an attempt towards 
> packet-optical integration. Please review and let us know of any comments.
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-anand-spring-poi-sr-00.txt
>
> Best regards,
> Madhukar, Sanjoy and Ramesh
>
>
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> Title:                Packet-Optical Integration in Segment Routing
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