Hi Stephane,

I incorporated your last comments and submitted a new version of the draft. Let 
me know if it addresses your comments.

Thanks.
s.



> On Sep 23, 2016, at 12:10 PM, stephane.litkow...@orange.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Stefano
> 
> Answers inline
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefano Previdi (sprevidi) [mailto:sprev...@cisco.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 18:18
> To: LITKOWSKI Stephane OBS/OINIS
> Cc: SPRING WG
> Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-resiliency-use-cases-05.txt
> 
> Hi Stephane,
> 
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 2:07 PM, stephane.litkow...@orange.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stefano,
>> 
>> Thanks for the great improvments in the text.
>> 
>> Few more comments :
>> 
>> §2 :
>> I still have an issue with : "the two paths are installed in the forwarding 
>> plane of A."
>> This works for sure, and in this case it would be good to mention that paths 
>> are working in a FRR approach providing sub-50msec restoration.
>> 
>> But I think it's too restrictive as path protection can be achieved by 
>> pre-computing T2 but not installing it in FIB (just present at RIB level or 
>> tunnel table => control plane level), so when T1 fails, T2 is pushed to FIB 
>> immediately.
> 
> 
> I’m ok with that but note that the whole paragraph starts with “For 
> example...” which means that it is just to illustrate one possible way.
> 
> So, I will remove the “installation" part of the paragraph.
> 
> 
>> It would be good to let both options opened as primary/backup LSPs with path 
>> protection can be implemented in both ways depending the level of service 
>> that we want to achieve for the restoration.
> 
> 
> I agree but I wouldn’t even try to list all the options...
> 
> [SLI] The idea is not to list all options but not to close options. As it is 
> written now, it looks as the only supported use cases will be the FRR use 
> case that you are presenting. So here, I just want the text to be more open.
> 
> 
>> §3.1 :
>> What about SRLG protection ? you provided text for link and node protection, 
>> it would be good to provide some for SRLG as well.
> 
> something like:
>    In case of SRLG protection, the bypass will avoid 
>    members of the same SRLG of the protected link.
> 
> [SLI] Yes, you need to add also that the path will need to merge asap of the 
> primary path (bypass case).
> 
> 
>> §4 :
>> Again, not sure that SRLG is a good example as it can be achieved using 
>> management free local protection.
> 
> 
> I agree. Note that the example works the same in case of BW constraint too.
> 
> [SLI] Right
> 
>> Could you find a more relevant example that could not be achieved through 
>> management free local protection ? maybe a BW or latency case ?
> 
> 
> in the case the node doesn’t want to use two links to protect each other due 
> to the amount of BW available on each of these links and that can’t absorb 
> the other link traffic.
> 
> [SLI] Fine
> 
>> §4.2 :
>> It would be good to add that the repair path customization should be on a 
>> per destination basis. As told it's more a per destination protection. I'm 
>> wondering if it would be better to name it in such way rather than using 
>> shortest path protection.
>> What do you think ?
> 
> 
> ok for me.
> 
> 
>> §9 :
>> "Also, necessary mechanisms SHOULD be provided ... to control when a repair 
>> path ..."
>> "When" is important, but "how" is also important, especially for managed 
>> protection. Would be good to add this.
> 
> 
> agreed.
> 
> I’ll submit the new version with your comments asap.
> 
> Thanks.
> s.
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Stephane
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stefano Previdi (sprevidi) [mailto:sprev...@cisco.com]
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 19:44
>> To: LITKOWSKI Stephane OBS/OINIS
>> Cc: SPRING WG
>> Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-resiliency-use-cases-05.txt
>> 
>> Hi Stephane,
>> 
>> this version hopefully addresses your comments. Let me know if there’s 
>> anything that still needs to be addressed. 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> s.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 7:39 PM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
>>> directories.
>>> This draft is a work item of the Source Packet Routing in Networking of the 
>>> IETF.
>>> 
>>>      Title           : Use-cases for Resiliency in SPRING
>>>      Authors         : Clarence Filsfils
>>>                        Stefano Previdi
>>>                        Pierre Francois
>>>                        Bruno Decraene
>>>                        Rob Shakir
>>>     Filename        : draft-ietf-spring-resiliency-use-cases-05.txt
>>>     Pages           : 11
>>>     Date            : 2016-09-19
>>> 
>>> Abstract:
>>> This document identifies and describe the requirements for a set of  
>>> use cases related to network resiliency on Segment Routing (SPRING)  
>>> networks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spring-resiliency-use-cas
>>> e
>>> s/
>>> 
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>>> 
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