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> On Sep 26, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Stefano Previdi (sprevidi) <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sasha,
> 
> sorry for being late. See below.
> 
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Alexander Vainshtein 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I have read the SR Resiliency Use Cases draft and I have an issue with the 
>> path protection use case.
>> 
>> The draft defines this use case with the following constrains/qualifiers 
>> (quoting from Section 2):
>> ·         The operator configures two SPRING paths T1 and T2 from A to Z
>> ·         Initially, the customer traffic (e.g., PW traffic) is sent from A 
>> to Z via T1. When T1 fails, the traffic is sent via T2.
>> ·         The two paths are made disjoint using the SPRING architecture
>> ·         The two configured paths T1 and T2 MUST NOT benefit from local 
>> protection
>> 
>> The draft does not go into any detail regarding the type of segments that 
>> the operator uses when specifying T1 and T2, and the example given in the 
>> draft can be interpreted in two ways:
>> ·         T1 and T2 are specified using only adjacency SID
>> ·         T1 and T2 are specified using node SIDs (or a mix of node SIDs and 
>> adjacency SIDs).
> 
> 
> this is intentional.
> 
> It’s a use case draft where we describe the various protection requirements 
> and  strategies for protection.
> 
> It has never been intended to describe a specific solution.
> 
> 
>> If T1 and T2 are specified using node SIDs, there is no guarantee that these 
>> paths, even if initially disjoint, will remain disjoint when the underlying 
>> network topology changes.
> 
> 
> It all depends on various factors among which the topology and how these 
> paths have been computed (i.e.: for which failure: link/node/srlg). IOW, you 
> _can_ compute disjoint paths taking into account a given srlg failure.
> 
> For sure, a path expressed through an exhaustive (list of adj-sid will give 
> you the best guarantee on the path the packet will take in all cases but it 
> is not the point of the draft.
> 
> 
>> Further, if TI FRR is enabled in the network for protection of non-TE SR 
>> LSPs, the fragments of T1 and T2 that are specified using node SIDs will not 
>> be excluded from local protection.


sorry, I realized something is missing in my answer.

In fact, even using node-sids and even for non TE SR traffic, you can still 
ensure the path you computed uses non protected sid’s. 

Think about the use of strict-spf sid’s where the rule is clear: just fowllow 
spt and do not diverge from it.

s.


>> So it seems that path protection for SR LSPs as specified in the draft is 
>> only applicable to paths that are specified using only adjacency SIDs.

> I don’t disagree while I believe it mostly depends on the topology. 
> 
> More important is the fact that the document should not focus on one specific 
> way of computing protection paths.
> 
> s.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Did I miss something substantial?
>> 
>> Regards, and lots fo thanks in advance,
>> Sasha
>> 
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