Stefano,

This is the document that someone interested in SR from and an MPLS perspective may well start with. A discussion on the issue of label stack depth and the practical constrains is thus very much in scope. The fact that you had a debate in the past immediately points to the need for a summary of the key issues and conclusions in this document.

Stewart


On 30/01/2017 11:27, Stefano Previdi (sprevidi) wrote:
I agree with Martin,

I think we have discussed this at length and I wouldn't re-spin the debate (and 
come to the same conclusion again and again). The manageability section of the 
architecture draft mention that a node may want to signal its stack 
capabilities and we have igp extensions for that.

s.


On Jan 30, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Martin Horneffer <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello Uma,

what kind of label depth discussion are you thinking of?

It seems to me this could easily become an endless discussion again. People 
seem to have very different views on it. Thus I'm not sure whether it would be 
suitable for this document.

BTW:

For my needs, bandwidth optimization is one of the major use cases for all 
traffic engineering technologies such as SR or RSVP.

We are currently supporting scientific university research about this, and 
first results give strong confirmation that for bandwidth optimization in real 
world networks you rarely need more than 1 additional segment. Or rather, the 
additional efficiency gained by using mor than 1 additional segment is very 
small. We compare a global real backbone network with current routing, 
theoretical MCF optimization and realistic optimization with 1 (or 2 or 3) 
additional traffic engineering segments (aka 2-SR, 3-SR, 4-SR).
Thus, from my point of view, an SR optimized network would typically have the 
same label stack depth as a similarily RSVP optimized network in some places, 
and a smaller label stack for the overall average .

All other use-cases I found of serious interest so far all work with 1 
additional segment (i.e. label) at most.

Best regards, Martin


Am 27.01.17 um 20:59 schrieb Uma Chunduri:
Support.

One quick comment:

While section 3 correctly documents MPLS instantiation of SR -  given the 
constructs SR has (ADJ SID for example) it's good to document SID/Label depth 
implications in the deployments.

--
Uma C.

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