Hi, Les,

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Spencer -
>
> Thanx for the review.
> V14 has been published and it attempts to address the Security concerns
> raised by you and others.
> Look forward to your feedback.
>

Looks exactly the way I hoped it would. Thanks much!

Spencer


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> Inline.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Spencer Dawkins [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 8:33 PM
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> > Subject: Spencer Dawkins' No Objection on draft-ietf-spring-segment-
> > routing-13: (with COMMENT)
> >
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> > draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-13: No Objection
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > COMMENT:
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> >
> > I'm not surprised to see additional security alarm bells going off for
> the SRv6
> > variant - this is quite similar to the additional congestion awareness
> alarm
> > bells that went off when we were evaluating MPLS (which is usually pretty
> > well
> > contained) over UDP (which can get around the Internet with a lot less
> effort
> > than MPLS without UDP). That's an opportunity to rethink the impact of
> > changes to an underlying technology.
> >
> > Which leads me to the point I should be making as a TSV AD. I'm not
> seeing
> > any obvious mechanism that would tell you that you've managed to set up
> > your segment routing so that some paths will undergo persistent
> congestion.
> > You might consider whether it's worth recommending that people doing
> > segment routing take a look at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8084/
> and
> > decide how much, if anything, would be useful to say about that.
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7510#section-5 is an early example of
> the kind
> > of thing I'm talking about.
> >
>  [Les:] Clarification that new congestion avoidance requirements are not
> introduced by SR has been added to the draft. The use of techniques (such
> as RFC 8084) may be applicable and this is also mentioned.
>
>    Les
>
>
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